Passenger bladder capacity
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Passenger bladder capacity
When a captain turns on the "fasten seat belt" sign, saying we might be going to hit some turbulence, but then leaves it on for hour after hour after hour (with exactly no actual turbulence experienced), is this because
- he's forgotten to turn it off
- being young and fit he has no concept that not every passenger has unlimited bladder capacity
- we really are flying through a weather system thousands of miles long which might eventually produce some actual turbulence
- we're flying over an iffy part of the world and he thinks he might have to dodge missiles
A 6-course meal was being served in the cabin?
Sometimes it seems that the "fasten seat belt" sign is turned on just before cabin service starts and it is turned off immediately after trash is collected...
Sometimes it seems that the "fasten seat belt" sign is turned on just before cabin service starts and it is turned off immediately after trash is collected...
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Can be due to forgetting. Many start the clock as a reminder, or set one up in the box 20 mins after just in case you forget.
the Cabin Crew are pretty good at reminding you. If we encounter occasional moderate in a forecast area of Mod or Severe, I would say we are duty bound to keep the signs on until we see the ambient temperature changes stop.
Same with flying in the vicinity or downwind of Thunderstorms/Cb. No one wants passengers ricochetting off of the roof. CAA will ask questions and if you ain’t on the right side of safe if someone gets seriously injured, and it can be proven you are incompetent, it could cost a licence.
There are other circumstances, for example, violent passenger or medical issue et al, where it is prudent to keep people seated.
the Cabin Crew are pretty good at reminding you. If we encounter occasional moderate in a forecast area of Mod or Severe, I would say we are duty bound to keep the signs on until we see the ambient temperature changes stop.
Same with flying in the vicinity or downwind of Thunderstorms/Cb. No one wants passengers ricochetting off of the roof. CAA will ask questions and if you ain’t on the right side of safe if someone gets seriously injured, and it can be proven you are incompetent, it could cost a licence.
There are other circumstances, for example, violent passenger or medical issue et al, where it is prudent to keep people seated.
I've noticed US domestic airlines tend to keep the seat belt turned on much more than the Asian operators I've flown.
I just figured it was the lawyers - Asians are not nearly as likely to sue if they stub a toe...
I just figured it was the lawyers - Asians are not nearly as likely to sue if they stub a toe...
My experience is that if flying to/from/in the USA the seat belt sign stays on for far longer than necessary; if flying elsewhere then it isn't as much of an issue.
I have, however, discovered the exception to this rule on a recent return flight from AKL to LHR on Air China - the seat belt sign simply doesn't get switched off at all from boarding until disembarkation. This was the case on all 4 flights so I assume is their standard practice.
I have, however, discovered the exception to this rule on a recent return flight from AKL to LHR on Air China - the seat belt sign simply doesn't get switched off at all from boarding until disembarkation. This was the case on all 4 flights so I assume is their standard practice.
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Seatbelt always on by default is good practice regardless of sign I imagine. But unless expressly forbidden by crew, I'm going regardless.
Must confess I rather enjoy a bit of moderate chop - breaks up the monotony and it's fun watching the wings work.
Must confess I rather enjoy a bit of moderate chop - breaks up the monotony and it's fun watching the wings work.
When a captain turns on the "fasten seat belt" sign, saying we might be going to hit some turbulence, but then leaves it on for hour after hour after hour (with exactly no actual turbulence experienced), is this because
- he's forgotten to turn it off
- being young and fit he has no concept that not every passenger has unlimited bladder capacity
- we really are flying through a weather system thousands of miles long which might eventually produce some actual turbulence
- we're flying over an iffy part of the world and he thinks he might have to dodge missiles
It's probably a combo of 1 and 3.
Sometimes you just forget or are distracted and they stay on.
Most of the time they go on when you think you may experience turbulence, e.g. near CBs, or other convective cloud. Sometimes it's on knowing that if you hit any of the clouds around you then it will be bumpy however you do a good job and don't actually hit one, so now you have the seatbelts on with no actual turbulence. Sometimes out of nowhere it gets bumpy, and even though you have periods of smooth air every time you go turn the seatbelts off you hit another bump, so you wait again.
See how it gets a little grey as to when you have them on or not?
Sometimes you just forget or are distracted and they stay on.
Most of the time they go on when you think you may experience turbulence, e.g. near CBs, or other convective cloud. Sometimes it's on knowing that if you hit any of the clouds around you then it will be bumpy however you do a good job and don't actually hit one, so now you have the seatbelts on with no actual turbulence. Sometimes out of nowhere it gets bumpy, and even though you have periods of smooth air every time you go turn the seatbelts off you hit another bump, so you wait again.
See how it gets a little grey as to when you have them on or not?
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Me (after about three hours): Any idea when I'll be allowed to go to the loo?
Cabin crew (who was walking around past my seat anyway): <Shrugs>
Me: Well, it'll have to be soon.
Cabin crew: Off you go then.
I suppose that at least they don't get people standing up queuing for the loo that way.
Cabin crew (who was walking around past my seat anyway): <Shrugs>
Me: Well, it'll have to be soon.
Cabin crew: Off you go then.
I suppose that at least they don't get people standing up queuing for the loo that way.
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Hit the call button and tell the CC you have a bladder issue and HAVE to use the facilities............ could they kindly check with Captain Speaking if that's OK......................
Its saved for the beer IMHO
