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Old 17th Oct 2016, 11:48
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+1 for the guys at Yarrawonga.
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Old 18th Oct 2016, 06:36
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painting

Its more than the removal of the control surfaces, stripping and painting. From the initial estimate to the final balance can be astronomical. It's "what lies beneath" that add greatly to the costs. Should somebody say $15k I would expect $25/30k plus.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 05:14
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Bump for PA28 respray

This topic was never really answered, Im curious also. PA28 respray near enough to Sydney, any recommended spray paint mobs and cost?
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 05:27
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Paint cost

Had a quote done for a PA32 back in May,
$27,000+GST Hardware and maintenance additional!
Owner baulked at the cost......
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That price is insane.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 08:48
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That price is insane.
Says someone who knows absolutely nothing about painting aircraft. If anything it is cheap.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 10:06
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Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
Says someone who knows absolutely nothing about painting aircraft. If anything it is cheap.
Break down the labour, materials and booth hire and let ppl who 'knows nothing' make an informed analysis. I was going to just reply 'yawn' but why not solicit some arm chair 'expertise' for everyones benefit.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 10:13
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Short of being ripped off, usually the amount you pay for a respray is directly proportionate to how long the paint sticks and the finish turns to crap.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 11:05
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Had my Archer painted three times by Flinders. Each about 10 years apart. Last one has been on now for about 10 years, maybe got another few years before another one is due. A/C is hangared. Cost quoted for last one was about 15k, ended up about 25k. I knew what was going on the whole time, and the extra work was needed. Great job, and you get what you pay for. I don't think prices have changed too much since then. Bit like a classic car, if you intend to keep it, it pays to get the job done properly. Maybe if you want to flick it, just get a cheap blow job.
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Last one has been on now for about 10 years, maybe got another few years before another one is due. A/C is hangared
Oh that is a surprise. So it's hangared in a normal fully enclosed hangar with reduced light / UV conditions? Surprised to hear it would only last 10 years or so. My paint is 10 years old and I wouldn't dream of having to do anything with it.

Is it in a school or charter arrangement and left out in direct sunlight regularly? If not, how many hours do you do / how often do you use it and leave it outside?
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 12:13
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Had a quote done for a PA32 back in May,
$27,000+GST Hardware and maintenance additional!
Owner baulked at the cost......
Probably what you would expect to pay (at least) for a good job on a Warrior. And don't forget the cost of the windows. About another $5K or $6K I would have thought. Nothing worse than seeing a great paint job looking a tad lusterless because the original, old, ****ty windows weren't replaced at the time of the repaint. Not much change if any, left out of $35,000.

Anyone who has spent any time in an aircraft paint shop will attest to the fact that it's a tedious, boring, repetitive, tiresome job with a certain amount of toxicity attached to it. These days I need at least 3 months warning from the Mrs. to psyche myself up to paint something even as small as the knob on the ****house door, so I'll be more than happy to hand over the $35K (more probably) when its time for the strip and paint on the machine. By the way, you should get at least 20 years out of a quality paint job if the aircraft is hangared and you look after the paint/aircraft.

....have spoken to a couple of really good aircraft refinishers over the years. They both suggested that the aircraft they found the easiest to repaint and the one they preferred to do over and above the rest, were the later model 210's ('79 and up) without the gear doors. Easiest of the lot I was told.
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Old 22nd Nov 2017, 06:26
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Break down the labour, materials and booth hire and let ppl who 'knows nothing' make an informed analysis
Sorry Ozhawk, didn't mean to seem rude. The best way is to look carefully at something like a 172 or Warrior. You will quickly notice around 3 cars worth of paint. I am guessing but I would reckon a top notch job on a car would be around 10K+. Aluminium is also a lot more fragile and labour intensive than steel.
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Old 22nd Nov 2017, 09:28
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Thanks for the info all, including Bob, further question, heard the term blow the paint on, or similar before. What does that entail and what would that cost be, can they do a rub back and colour match over the top?. Paint on warrior is chalky and flaked off in many places, so want to see what I can do in the interim. Dont want it offline for months if this is possible, and probably cheaper.
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Whats your location?
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A story from Perth from a few years back...

4 Seater, low wing in Perth.

A great paint job but unable to hangar due to expense (Jandakot - $500-800/month back then, more now)

Degradation in paintwork due to outdoor storage in about 10 years to a chalky level.

Leaky fuel caps probably another $3K of maintenance too (hey, who forgot to drain the tanks (albeit leaky caps) and declare emergency and land in a military airbase?). Driving a LAME 2 hours each way - well that's money well spent?! Trying to argue with the military about permission given to simply take off, from a backup RAAF base that is never used. F you RAAF.

Moral of story: Hangar your aircraft if you can afford it. If you can't afford it, consider the three F rule.

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Old 22nd Nov 2017, 21:40
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Leaky fuel caps probably another $3K of maintenance too
Our Piper has been tied-down and stored outside with fuel cap covers from Stay-Sealed Inc Aircraft Fuel Cap Covers and has had no leaks for the last 3 years other than tiny amounts of condensation occasionally. A little expensive but they work.
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 02:39
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AbsoluteFokker,

Does your rule end with "rent it"? If so I think I know what the 3 F's stand for.
I'm not an aviator or boatie but can relate to the last one...
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Whats your location?
Aircaft will be at YSCN/YSBK
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Originally Posted by Octane
AbsoluteFokker,

Does your rule end with "rent it"? If so I think I know what the 3 F's stand for.
I'm not an aviator or boatie but can relate to the last one...
That's the one!
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