Can someone explain how I get my ATPL and type rating
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Can someone explain how I get my ATPL and type rating
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I'm going to do my pilot training at the aviation academy in New York but would like to know how I get my ATPL frozen and type rating after I have completed the course
As I read ATP for FAA cannot be frozen you must have the hours to do the written exam
Can someone please explain it to me
I'm going to do my pilot training at the aviation academy in New York but would like to know how I get my ATPL frozen and type rating after I have completed the course
As I read ATP for FAA cannot be frozen you must have the hours to do the written exam
Can someone please explain it to me
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Once you finish your course, you most likely will have a commercial certificate wth instrument rating. In order to take your ATP knowledge test, you must complete a CTP course which costs around $4000-$6000. Once you take your knowledge test, you must meet the ATP requirements within 24 calendar months and pass the ATP practical test or else you will have to retake the ATP knowledge test again. I would recommend that you don't take the ATP knowledge test until you know that you are within 2 years of meeting ATP requirements.
"Frozen" ATPL is not an official term. The term is very rare in the USA. If your plan is to get this so-called Frozen ATPL, your best bet is to go to an EASA approved program.
"Frozen" ATPL is not an official term. The term is very rare in the USA. If your plan is to get this so-called Frozen ATPL, your best bet is to go to an EASA approved program.
If you are reading that you have to have the 1500 hours to take the ATP written test you are reading a 20 year old regulations book. That changed in 1997. That being said, there are no "frozen" ATPs in FAA land, maybe because of that history of not being able to take the written before you were ready for the checkride. Pilots would list on their resume that they had a commercial certificate and had passed the ATP (and many times the FE turbojet) written. The normal path for FAA certificates is to get your private then an IR then your commercial and ME and then your ATP. If you're doing a type rating the ATP and type rating checkride will be the same checkride.
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The FAA changed the valid time for the ATP written after you go through the CTP. It's 60 months - 61.39(1)(ii).
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The FAA changed the valid time for the ATP written after you go through the CTP. It's 60 months - 61.39(1)(ii).
I have no idea how the Egyptian CAA works. You could get a FAA commercial and then complete a type rating course. You'd then have a commercial certificate with a type rating on it. You should ask your CAA what license they will grant you based on that.
There is no such thing as an ICAO license, just as there is no such thing as a "frozen ATP" in the FAA. You must have the required flight time and CTP course complete to take the USS FAA ATP written. What the Egyptian CAA wants is for them to decide.
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Hi
I'm going to do my pilot training at the aviation academy in New York but would like to know how I get my ATPL frozen and type rating after I have completed the course
As I read ATP for FAA cannot be frozen you must have the hours to do the written exam
Can someone please explain it to me
I'm going to do my pilot training at the aviation academy in New York but would like to know how I get my ATPL frozen and type rating after I have completed the course
As I read ATP for FAA cannot be frozen you must have the hours to do the written exam
Can someone please explain it to me
The license you'll have after the successful completion of your training in the US will be a FAA CPL/IR.
In order to qualify for an FAA ATP you must have a minimum of 1500hr, besides attending an ATP Certification Program, which consists of 30hr of ground and 10hr of simulator training, which must be completed prior to be eligible to take the ATP knowledge and practical test.
After completing your commercial flight training you could go and get your CFI (Certified Flight Instructor) to built some flight time, but as a None US-Citizen you require a visa for your flight training (and to work as a CFI afterwards) but the visa is time limited, usually around 12 to 18 month (depending on the type of visa) this time frame is usually not sufficient to acquire 1500hr - even as a CFI.
If you're specifically looking for a "frozen" ATP and are planning on getting a TR (Type Rating) afterwards, maybe you should consider doing your training completely in Europe, or look for a flight school in the US which offers EASA training in co-operation with an EASA school. www.flyeft.com
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Yes I understand all this but I would be transferring my faa to icao to work in Egypt I won't be working in America I have no green card status I anticipate complete I my training and getting my type rating there then returning to Egypt I believe I can do my atpl frozen there and change my license to icao Egypt or other country I find work
I'm just looking for confirmation of this
I'm just looking for confirmation of this
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As already mentioned several times before, since the FAA is a member of the ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) as well as Egypt is, there is NO need to transfer it to an ICAO license, since both countries are ICAO members, like pretty much all other countries of the world, except Westsahara (Africa) and a few little islands in the Pacific. Recommend to read the following link: International Civil Aviation Organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What you're talking about is the conversion of the FAA license to the respective national Egyptian license! And in order to get this cleared you must get in contact with the NAA (National Aviation Authority) of Egypt, they will be able to answer your question(s).
What you're talking about is the conversion of the FAA license to the respective national Egyptian license! And in order to get this cleared you must get in contact with the NAA (National Aviation Authority) of Egypt, they will be able to answer your question(s).
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There's no requirement to have an ATP to get a type rating, you can have a FAA type rating on a private certificate. See 61.63 (d). And there's no requirement to have the 1500 before the ATP CTP or taking the written, only the checkride. See 61.35 and 61.153.
Look in the "JAA/CAA/CASA/ICAO" thread. That really needs to become a "sticky." The basic info is the FAA will grant a private certificate limited to VFR with your type rating when your CAA verifies your license to them. You can add the IR by passing the IR written, no checkride required. Anything above the private level requires writtens, training and a check-ride.
