Petition by Carol Voderman
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Petition by Carol Voderman
Hi there,
Link below to a petition that some of you folks might like to sign.
Fred Tesson
https://www.change.org/p/give-britain-s-last-surviving-dambuster-hero-a-knighthood/sign?utm_source=action_alert_sign&utm_medium=email&utm_campa ign=695309&alert_id=npxxwEhKyJ_fZFqSEQL0ddXgHJNc3tH%2FtQb1Is e28BqulHAoqvR8G4%3D
Link below to a petition that some of you folks might like to sign.
Fred Tesson
https://www.change.org/p/give-britain-s-last-surviving-dambuster-hero-a-knighthood/sign?utm_source=action_alert_sign&utm_medium=email&utm_campa ign=695309&alert_id=npxxwEhKyJ_fZFqSEQL0ddXgHJNc3tH%2FtQb1Is e28BqulHAoqvR8G4%3D
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Given the casual distribution to sports-people and luvvies, why not?
Except that it further debases the Orders of Chivalry, which has already plumbed the depths of banality and favouritism.
A Knighthood for being the last Dambuster? Oh, come on! How about a Knighthood for Danny42C for being [probably] the last surviving Vengeance dive-bomber pilot? Or the belated Legion d'Honneur for everyone still alive who was at D-Day?
PS: The link is as awful as the concept. Try this >>> https://www.change.org/p/give-britai...o-a-knighthood
Except that it further debases the Orders of Chivalry, which has already plumbed the depths of banality and favouritism.
A Knighthood for being the last Dambuster? Oh, come on! How about a Knighthood for Danny42C for being [probably] the last surviving Vengeance dive-bomber pilot? Or the belated Legion d'Honneur for everyone still alive who was at D-Day?
PS: The link is as awful as the concept. Try this >>> https://www.change.org/p/give-britai...o-a-knighthood
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I'm a tad uncomfortable about this.
On the strength of his war deeds - no. And I'm sure his beloved deceased mates would agree; medals are sufficient and appropriate.
If his charitable work has been of such significance to warrant public acclaim, then so be it.
All of that said, I'm more concerned about the lady's attraction to publicity. Not only the sporting of uniform, but her more recent exploits in Oz (handsomely rewarded). Sad sort of woman. IMO
On the strength of his war deeds - no. And I'm sure his beloved deceased mates would agree; medals are sufficient and appropriate.
If his charitable work has been of such significance to warrant public acclaim, then so be it.
All of that said, I'm more concerned about the lady's attraction to publicity. Not only the sporting of uniform, but her more recent exploits in Oz (handsomely rewarded). Sad sort of woman. IMO
Oh I don't know Danny, Sir Danny has a nice ring to it!
The tricky bit might be getting up again after kneeling for HM to dub you knight
(No offence, I'm starting to get that problem myself, and you have a few years on me!)
Seriously though, I'm with MPN here. We need fewer medals, not more.
The tricky bit might be getting up again after kneeling for HM to dub you knight
(No offence, I'm starting to get that problem myself, and you have a few years on me!)
Seriously though, I'm with MPN here. We need fewer medals, not more.
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I'd rather your man got a Knighthood than Victoria bloody talentless pouting nerk Beckham got a sodding OBE!
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Well if Olympians get them for doing their job - and already get a medal for that! - then why not? As has been noted, the system is already somewhat discredited, which is a shame because as a concept I like the general idea.
Still, at least we'd know what this was for. If all citations were published after the fact so we could clearly see what people were picking their gongs up for, it would get rid of an awful lot of these spurious awards very quickly as the Honours Committee simply wouldn't survive being held accountable in the court of public opinion.
Still, at least we'd know what this was for. If all citations were published after the fact so we could clearly see what people were picking their gongs up for, it would get rid of an awful lot of these spurious awards very quickly as the Honours Committee simply wouldn't survive being held accountable in the court of public opinion.
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Actually Newt, in Johnie's case it was 30 ft without the fabled light altimeter......
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Melchett, I think we see so many spurious awards - the ones that go to military brass and civil serpents merely for being promoted to a particular job or post. Does CDS still get a baronetcy now that the post has been down ranked to 4*?
Should MPs get a K simply for winning half a dozen elections or so?
Lower down the tree you actually need someone to write a recommendation and for it to be passed up the tree.
Should MPs get a K simply for winning half a dozen elections or so?
Lower down the tree you actually need someone to write a recommendation and for it to be passed up the tree.
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All of that said, I'm more concerned about the lady's attraction to publicity. Not only the sporting of uniform, but her more recent exploits in Oz (handsomely rewarded). Sad sort of woman. IMO
That same publicity could be of great help to the Cadets she represents.
So she gets paid for appearing on a TV show, there are many who get much more for a lot less.
Sad, I donīt think so.
Petition signed, I hope it gets enough support to go all the way.
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Looking at it from a different angle. With the system being devalued, could it be that none of the present awards are worthy enough for such a great man. Respect not just for his duties during in the war, but also for his lifelong commitments after the war.
I agree totally with jindabyne. The very gallant gentleman was decorated for bravery with a DFM. Unless he has done something very significant post war to warrant a Knighthood, then he should not get one. My uncle, a Lancaster pilot, was killed in action over the Ruhr, and equally was a brave man, but like many never received any medals. Moreover, I agree the comments re 'that lady'. In my opinion, she has brought the RAF and her uniform into disrepute by her antics in 'The Jungle'. Can you imagine what would happen if a regular RAF officer behaved like that on TV?
