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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 08:19
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Pax, don't agree with you on that one. We will alway be told there is not enough money for the NHS and more needs to be spent on welfare. No matter how much is given, we will be told its not enough and more is required. We also need an Air Force, one that is capable of deploying anywhere in the world at a moments notice and can work effectively and in co-operation with its allies, wherever they may be. Exercises like this strengthen ties between all involved, from the engineers and pilots who go, all the way to the senior officers and, in some cases, politicians who put the leg work in to make the whole thing happen in the first place.

There is nothing noteworthy about this exercise, other than its taking place in a country that the RAF don't frequently visit. From a distance point of view, its approximately 5800 miles from London to Japan, whereas London to Las Vegas is 5200. I would hardly think the extra 600 miles each way breaks the bank, or is worth getting excited about. No one seems to get quite so excited about the yearly (twice yearly sometimes) Red Flag exercises, so I'm surprised by some of the responses on here.

I wish them a safe journey and exercise and thank all involved for flying the flag on our behalf.
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Pax, don't agree with you on that one. We will alway be told there is not enough money for the NHS and more needs to be spent on welfare. No matter how much is given, we will be told its not enough and more is required. We also need an Air Force, one that is capable of deploying anywhere in the world at a moments notice and can work effectively and in co-operation with its allies, wherever they may be. Exercises like this strengthen ties between all involved, from the engineers and pilots who go, all the way to the senior officers and, in some cases, politicians who put the leg work in to make the whole thing happen in the first place.

There is nothing noteworthy about this exercise, other than its taking place in a country that the RAF don't frequently visit. From a distance point of view, its approximately 5800 miles from London to Japan, whereas London to Las Vegas is 5200. I would hardly think the extra 600 miles each way breaks the bank, or is worth getting excited about. No one seems to get quite so excited about the yearly (twice yearly sometimes) Red Flag exercises, so I'm surprised by some of the responses on here.

I wish them a safe journey and exercise and thank all involved for flying the flag on our behalf.

The only thing I disagree with in the above is the surprise at some of the responses. There are an awful lot of posters just waiting to have a moan at anything that the RAF do.


Typhoons going to Japan has absolutely nothing to do with NHS or pensions
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Boosting Britains presence in the region, what when we cannot afford the NHS , are about to start stealing money from poor pensioners through more bedroom taxes cannot afford to maintain our roads to even the lowest standards but we can 'show the Flag in Japan. Talk about delusional
It is an old but true story, that if the money spent on rearmament in the 1930's had been spent on a NHS, then by 1941 the UK would have had the best health service in the Third Reich.
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I think it's a fairly straight forward public relations promo on behalf of the UK. Red arrows and a sizeable detachment of modern aircraft (even if that is what is required to keep 2 in the air). It's like having a large transport plane for your prime minister to arrive in, or a carrier, or a Royal Yacht. One only hopes that someone is actually collecting some metrics around the economics to see if it is worth the expenditure.
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Best of luck to them. Refreshing. If sales follow, all the better.

Most people in the region should be happy to see them, apart from X, Y and Z and a certain country in South America which might not enjoy seeing such a long-range projection of power.
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I seem to remember that when the Reds used to deploy, they always had a shepherd, usually a Nimrod or possibly a Vulcan. What shepherds these days, a C17? Also, what sort of formation do they keep during a long transit, I realise that visual contact is desirable but hours looking at the adjacent hawk must be mind bending.
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Originally Posted by ian16th
It is an old but true story, that if the money spent on rearmament in the 1930's had been spent on a NHS, then by 1941 the UK would have had the best health service in the Third Reich.
Yeah, but later a brexit vote would have ended all that!
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Have they actually departed yet? Last I heard most were U/S scattered around the country......
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According to the RAF website, 8 Typhoons have landed safely in Malaysia.
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02 October 2016 - Royal Air Force Typhoons Land in Malaysia for Exercise Bersama Lima 16

Royal Air Force Typhoon Aircraft flown by 1(Fighter) Squadron from RAF Lossiemouth have landed at Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) Butterworth in Malaysia for Exercise Bersama Lima 16, the first leg of Eastern Venture.

The Typhoon aircraft arrived as two trails (4 in each), both supported by RAF Voyager Tanker aircraft which provided air to air refuelling for the Typhoons.
Images and further details at following link.

Royal Air Force Typhoons Land in Malaysia for Exercise Bersama Lima 16
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 08:58
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Two further videos, of 4 to Japan.
1. Night landing in Misawa, Japan.
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2. Various shorts from the visit
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Nice to see they used the rudder bar to steer the aircraft on the ground instead of those stupid toe brakes.

Tin helmet on.
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Typhoons now arrived at Osan AB, South Korea for Ex Invincible Shield according to RAF Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/royalairforce/posts/10154758153499885
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Press release on RAF web page on Invincible Shield including air-air shot of Typhoon with F-15K and pair of F-16s:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/invincible-shield--first-ever-ukusrok-combined-air-exercise-08112016
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Reported on the midday NHK news in Japan today, Friday that these typhoons will fly over the South China Sea soon to show Britain shares the US position that the seas should be free and open to international passage. Sir Kim Darroch spoke at the Heritage Foundation in Washington DC yesterday and mentioned that the UK will have two carriers by 2020, and that it would be of importance to send them to the Pacific in due course.


(News is still in Japanese; my precis above.)
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Old 2nd Dec 2016, 07:26
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Ah, the English version is now up.


British fighters to fly over S.China Sea - News - NHK WORLD - English


Britain plans to fly fighter planes over the South China Sea soon, apparently reflecting concern about China's expanding presence in the waters.

British Ambassador to the United States Kim Darroch spoke about the plan at a symposium in Washington on Thursday.

Darroch said Britain shares the US government's goal of keeping sea and air routes open in the region.

He said British Typhoon aircraft currently deployed in Japan for joint training will fly across the disputed parts of the sea.

The ambassador also said his country will sail 2 new aircraft carriers in the Pacific, once they are operational in 2020.

Darroch's remarks reflect Britain's intent to become more involved in security in the Asia-Pacific region.

An arbitration tribunal in The Hague ruled in July that China has no legal basis for its claims to most of the South China Sea, and that it violated international law. The country has not accepted the ruling.
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