Now, where did we put those RN Harriers?
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Now, where did we put those RN Harriers?
Not the RAF ones, just the ones that won the last Falklands War. Because...
Argentina launches lawsuit against Falkland oil drillers - BBC News
Argentina launches lawsuit against Falkland oil drillers - BBC News
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I believe theres a quite a few used for ground handling at Culdrose.
At least they're only launching a law suit rather than launching something a bit more deadly!
I believe theres a quite a few used for ground handling at Culdrose.
At least they're only launching a law suit rather than launching something a bit more deadly!
Not sure how long these court cases run, perhaps by the time anything comes to fruition depending on dodgy lawyers etc etc 
, the F-35 will be embarked on QE and be setting sail with a modest battlegroup
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, the F-35 will be embarked on QE and be setting sail with a modest battlegroupCheers
Not the RAF ones just the ones that won the last Falklands War. Because...
Argentina launches lawsuit against Falkland oil drillers - BBC News
Argentina launches lawsuit against Falkland oil drillers - BBC News
Maj Gen Julian Thompson. I was Commander of the 3rd Commando Brigade in the Falklands. In his presentation, CAS said that his squadron helped to turn the tide at Goose Green. I can tell him that it did turn the tide. 2PARA were stuck on a forward slope, in daylight, being engaged by 35 mm AAA at 2000 metres range, something to which they had absolutely no answer. Suddenly, like cavalry to the rescue out of the sky, came three Harriers which promptly took out those guns and turned the tide of the battle. There is a tale behind that too. We had previously been supported by CAS’s squadron on exercise in Norway and we had a very high opinion of what they could do. While we were on our way south, I turned to my primary FAC, who was an RAF Phantom back-seater on a ground tour, and told him that I needed No 1 Sqn. He said that I would never get them. I asked why and he replied that they simply couldn’t get there. Thank God you did Peter, because you really did pull the fat out of the fire for us, for which I’d like to say thank you, very much indeed.
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Courtney ...
Don't worry ... should there be any need for 'unpleasantness' we can do what we do best in the UK these days ... outsource the job to India and their SHAR's
Don't worry ... should there be any need for 'unpleasantness' we can do what we do best in the UK these days ... outsource the job to India and their SHAR's
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Not just the excellent SHAR2 (Good morning, Sharkey!), but perhaps also Vulcan XH558 might find itself back in its old role once this year's air display season is over?
Even XM655 and XL426, if the government had the money and RR could sort out the engines?
Even XM655 and XL426, if the government had the money and RR could sort out the engines?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Better C17, MOAB, Voyager and a Sqn of Typhoons
The longest fighter sweep in history of you see what I mean
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How would a Black Buck mission look in 2015? Of course the idea is not to lose the islands in the first place now, and even if that happened, Tomahawk or Harpoon (naval type) attack may well be preferred, but I'm curious as to what it would look like in the modern age.
I know there have been threads on this before, but the Tristar & VC10 have gone, and there are options of Tornado or Typhoon for attack (I would say bombing, but I guess missiles might be appropriate too).
I assume the Voyager can carry & dispense more fuel than the Victors, but then the attack aircraft is much different to the Vulcan. Nowhere near as many bombs, but lots of different options.
The Typhoon can be supersonic to get there and get back more quickly, but the tankers aren't. Indeed is that a correct statement re the Typhoon with a war-load of ground attack munitions? Typhoon fully bombed up, long range attack, what would be the optimum speed? Could you reasonably use more than one aircraft?
Just curious, and certainly not looking for anything other than public domain info.
I know there have been threads on this before, but the Tristar & VC10 have gone, and there are options of Tornado or Typhoon for attack (I would say bombing, but I guess missiles might be appropriate too).
I assume the Voyager can carry & dispense more fuel than the Victors, but then the attack aircraft is much different to the Vulcan. Nowhere near as many bombs, but lots of different options.
The Typhoon can be supersonic to get there and get back more quickly, but the tankers aren't. Indeed is that a correct statement re the Typhoon with a war-load of ground attack munitions? Typhoon fully bombed up, long range attack, what would be the optimum speed? Could you reasonably use more than one aircraft?
Just curious, and certainly not looking for anything other than public domain info.
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Argentina has begun legal proceedings against three British and two US companies for drilling oil near the Falkland Islands.
Analysts suggested Argentina would have little joy in the courts.
"The Argentines will lose," Malcolm Bracken at Redmayne Bentley told the BBC. "They have no jurisdiction - the UN settled the matter in 1982."
In fact, he said the country's current position would prove counterproductive. "All they're doing is handing any possible benefit that Argentina may have had from the oil boom in the south Atlantic to Chile. "There'd be an awful lot of logistic support needed for drilling that simply isn't available in the Falklands. They'd need a port somewhere and that's likely to be near Chile rather than Argentina, so they're cutting their own nose off to spite their face."
"The Argentines will lose," Malcolm Bracken at Redmayne Bentley told the BBC. "They have no jurisdiction - the UN settled the matter in 1982."
In fact, he said the country's current position would prove counterproductive. "All they're doing is handing any possible benefit that Argentina may have had from the oil boom in the south Atlantic to Chile. "There'd be an awful lot of logistic support needed for drilling that simply isn't available in the Falklands. They'd need a port somewhere and that's likely to be near Chile rather than Argentina, so they're cutting their own nose off to spite their face."
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The Argentinians don't have a great track record in that field. The Argentine Navy had one of its sail training ships, the Libertad, impounded by the country's creditors in Ghana. Good luck to them if thats the road they want to go down.
In terms of reinforcement, we are massively better placed than we were in 1982. The Voyager fleet could position combat aircraft there far more rapidly than the Navy ever could.
In terms of reinforcement, we are massively better placed than we were in 1982. The Voyager fleet could position combat aircraft there far more rapidly than the Navy ever could.
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In terms of reinforcement, we are massively better placed than we were in 1982.
Words fail me.
Words fail me.
In '82, we had no airfield there so we had to take the slower option of taking the floating runway with the only jets it could carry and moving all our fighting men and logistics by sea. Things are different now. That's not to say that HMS Ocean and her friends wouldn't be bulk carriers to back up and augment the initial air deployment.
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An airbridge to the Falklands? Will not their 24 shiny new Gripens possibly make that a little awkward?
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Why would you need a constant sea-based CAP? Isn't it the point that things have moved on? A type 45 gives you early warning and a first line surface to air layer, ashore you have FS3 Rapier (to be replaced by CAMM -L) and a well-found airbase with Typhoon. Not to mention what you can stuff out of submarine's launch tube nowadays.
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Originally Posted by camelspyyder
An airbridge to the Falklands? Will not their 24 shiny new Gripens possibly make that a little awkward?
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