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Old 10th Aug 2014, 12:29
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Fortissimo, Ha! Perhaps one can offset one against t'other

I wish HRH and his unit well in the venture but just think that, what with Royal engagements etc, it will be difficult to maintain the standard which, I'm sure, he would otherwise achieve.
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 13:13
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Ive asked this before but never really got the answer i was after...

doesn't the military syllabus cover similar topics as in depth as the ATPL?

I guess what im trying to say is that you go in the RAF, fly jets/choppers, come out - then you should breeze the ATPL......right?

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Old 10th Aug 2014, 14:16
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F4TCT, Going back to leaving the RAF in '73 (when I already had a CPL), I still had to study for, and pass the CAA exams. Although I had a Transport Command & Strike Command procedural IR I still had to fly the CAA Initial IRT.

Not a breeze because one had to study for the specific civil exams. I used Avigation, who were very good but recollect a chap turning up for a week or two in class and being sent home because he hadn't done enough home study to cope with the intensity of the classroom.
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So what happens if he were to fail the ATPL exams?
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So what happens if he were to fail the ATPL exams?
A royal failing an exam? Impossible.
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 16:31
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Edward didnt pass Lympstone.

Mind you, no shame in that, I'd never pass it in a million years
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 16:39
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They could only stretch the bounds of credulity so far ;-)
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Did this one pass P-Company? Would have liked to have seen him milling !

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So what happens if he were to fail the ATPL exams?
He would no doubt study a bit more and retake them. Just like anyone else would.
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I don't know if the monarchy pays IHT, or if charities would be included (RNLI etc?) but this recent consultation from HMRC provides an interesting reference. If this is wealth preservation at its most imaginative, then I doff my cap.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...doc_vFinal.pdf

The Government wishes to extend the Inheritance Tax exemption for armed forces personnel who die on active service to all emergency service personnel who die in the line of duty, or whose death is hastened by injury incurred in the line of duty.
Having said that, HMRC is about to consult on a pre-loaded HMRC measure though, pay before you die. Oh, the joy.
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Genstabler and all other loyal saps, the Palace PR machine is not a myth. And it's not a doe-eyed defence of helpless Windsors from heartless British journalists. It's actually something far more interesting... and more disquieting. Look closely and you'll see that it's the mutated offspring of Charles's requirement to deodorise his stinky affair with the wife of Brigadier Parker-Bowles and an Alistair-Campbell era assumption that you can harness benign patriotic goodwill to the self-interest of a privileged few. Response invited from anyone who would wish to argue a contrary point of view. And before you ask, I'm a royalist - and a supporter of air ambulances. Goofer.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 00:33
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goofer

Agree with you re the PR machine.

Diana also used (her) PR / the media very well to sway opinion.

I do think the two Princes are doing very well indeed and the AA will get a lot of benefit out of having William as a pilot.

I'm a royalist as well.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 07:56
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If you're a royalist then I'm a republican!

Loyal sap.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 13:44
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Fair dooz chaps. Excuse the minor late night rant re PR, though I stand by every word. Quite agree the flying careers of PW and PH are a sound example to the younger generation. What comes next is critical and in this PW's interim career choice could hardly be bettered. Mind you, as a royalist, I have doubts about the future of the institution as currently configured. Loyal doesn't have to mean uncritical:the Glorious Revolution (etc) succeeded because the saps wised up.

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Pikeys have been known to attack the civilian emergency services so some means of defending themselves (gas? pepper spray?), Flt Lt Wales (Rtd) on board or not, would seem to be moving from 'useful' to 'essential'. The RAF SAR policy has been that the winchman is a paramedic and is in control of the casualty, what he/she says goes, and he/she can be overruled by the captain only if the aircraft is in danger, regardless of their respective ranks, while all other back crew are trained at least to ambulance technician standard. I should hope that a Royal & Diplomatic Protection Officer is trained to that standard as a matter of course. If not, wake up, Met!

But if the future Capt Will Wales finds himself in a small chopper with only a paramedic then he does, it's what he's volunteered for and good luck and all praise to him! (Before any person of pedantic disposition points out that because of his royal peculiarities WW is already a Captain, although inactive, in the Blues & Royals, I know that thanks I'm referring to the civil aviation rank/status.)

BTW it's surely counter-productive for a member of the back crew to use a firearm on the service users.

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Old 22nd Aug 2014, 21:50
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Re goofer's post 21, dodgy spin doctors go way back before the Blessed Alastair, or Bernard Ingham for that matter. Read Samuel Pepys' Diaries, written during the reign of Charles II, and you'll see what I mean.
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(Before any person of pedantic disposition points out that because of his royal peculiarities WW is already a Captain, although inactive, in the Blues & Royals
Hah! Reminds me of a long time Pruner of my acquaintance who has three sons: two civil pilots and one Army.
Army one walks in and says "Huh, I've made Captain before you two!"
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Old 23rd Aug 2014, 00:34
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Read Samuel Pepys' Diaries, written during the reign of Charles II, and you'll see what I mean.
Yes, and, politically speaking, Shakespeare kept his nose clean.
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Old 23rd Aug 2014, 00:40
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Good on him.
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Old 23rd Aug 2014, 07:50
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Nutnurse, an interesting point re Pepys. Arguably his output - and the liberal climate typified by much Restoration theater - helped create the circumstances in which Charles II's successor could be so swiftly rumbled and replaced. Pepys less forthcoming on air ambulances, alas, but the perils of blurring the line between royalty and celebrity stand the test of time. The safeguard, as always, is a vigilant media and a healthy scepticism about spoon-fed palace platitudes.

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