Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

JP5's up for sale Nine of them!

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

JP5's up for sale Nine of them!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Feb 2013, 17:01
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,894
Received 2,834 Likes on 1,210 Posts
JP5's up for sale Nine of them!

Sweet

JET PROVOSTS FOR SALE - Jet Provost File
NutLoose is online now  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 17:24
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,895
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Nice little runabouts and quite easy to keep. My last JP flight was through the Rocky Mountains - in one of the jets sold to private owners in the US.

500 ft MSD only applies if there are any persons, vessels, vehicles or structures; and in the Rockies, there aren't
Fox3WheresMyBanana is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 17:56
  #3 (permalink)  
Green Flash
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Blimey, I hadn't realised so many had gone over the pond, the skies of North America must be thick with 'em!
Fond memories of trips in the Linton weather ship many moons ago What a lovely little jet.
 
Old 16th Feb 2013, 18:07
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Sussex UK
Age: 66
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Just asked Mrs Coff if she had any ideas for my 56th birthday present yet ... got a stern look when I ... don't bother ... socks again
CoffmanStarter is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 18:27
  #5 (permalink)  
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lincolnshire
Age: 81
Posts: 16,777
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Buy them back in, I am sure a unit at Scampton could put them to good use.
Pontius Navigator is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 18:32
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Sussex UK
Age: 66
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
PN ... Naughty boy

Reform The Poachers as a 9 ship Team

Last edited by CoffmanStarter; 16th Feb 2013 at 18:34.
CoffmanStarter is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 19:15
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: nr Ely, Cambs
Age: 61
Posts: 379
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I do hope there are some left at that nice RAF training base with the museum attached. Annual camp there for some local cadets this year, was hoping to get them a "trip" in a JP.
brokenlink is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 20:19
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: UK
Age: 69
Posts: 1,405
Received 40 Likes on 22 Posts
They could even replace the grounded Tutors
beardy is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 21:04
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Brokenlink:- already too late for that one I am afraid. All taxi aircraft are Jaguar nowadays and the JP have not been started in over a year. All JP are set aside for disposal.
Tiger_mate is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2013, 21:48
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wales
Posts: 93
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ex Cosford?

Tiger Mate
Are not the ones for sale those that you refer to?

The ad says "IDEAL POTENTIAL RETURN TO FLIGHT AIRCRAFT HAVING BEEN USED FOR INSTRUCTIONAL GROUND TAXI USE FOR THE TRAINING OF GROUND CREW. LAST FLOWN IN THE EARLY NINETIES BUT HAVE BEEN REGULARLY GROUND RUN, PROFESSIONALLY MAINTAINED, DRY STORED/SERVICED FOR GROUND TAXI USE UP UNTIL LAST YEAR."
Beancountercymru is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 09:07
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Sussex UK
Age: 66
Posts: 6,995
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
You could always whip out the Vipers and build a new generation of MRD's (we probably only need nine these days )... an ideal project for those thrusting young engineers at Cosford.
CoffmanStarter is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 09:20
  #12 (permalink)  
Red On, Green On
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Between the woods and the water
Age: 24
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
May I be the first to say that the JP was perhaps the finest example of the constant thrust, variable noise aircraft
airborne_artist is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 10:09
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 764
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seat cartridges etc

Hmmm. Well assuming the enthusiastic engineers have not buggered, over temped the engines while starting them up and taxiing etc there is the small but expensive issue of replacing the MB cartridges in both seats.... Oh and ensuring there is a parachute in the brown bag and not a collection of rags...Oh and installing the seat properly with the top latch engaged otherwise someone might fall out the plane again while doing loopy loops....

A good aircraft if run by a decent group with sensible engineers.
Bigpants is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 10:11
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: France
Age: 80
Posts: 6,379
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Heck, did the JP really go out of service 20 years ago - now where is my zimmer..................

Last edited by Wander00; 17th Feb 2013 at 10:11.
Wander00 is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 10:21
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Lovely little fun machine - but only if someone else is paying.
Never flew the 5 - been told that the pressurisation bleed reduces the power to about that of the 3
Basil is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 10:23
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: France
Age: 80
Posts: 6,379
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
JP3 - "power" - no, just the triumph of hope over experience!

Last edited by Wander00; 17th Feb 2013 at 11:22.
Wander00 is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 10:43
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,806
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
Never flew the 5 - been told that the pressurisation bleed reduces the power to about that of the 3
Not true.

The JP5 had a simple, effective and reliable pressurisation system and flew very nicely indeed with the extra oomph.
BEagle is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 13:25
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Fragrant Harbour
Posts: 4,787
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
"Never flew the 5 - been told that the pressurisation bleed reduces the power to about that of the 3"

Not so. The Mk3 had a viper 101 series engine rated at 1650lbs (IIRC) and the Mk 5 had a Viper 201 series engine rated at 2450lbs (again IIRC). The Mk5 was a rocket ship compared with the athsmatic Mk3. Perhaps you are thinking of the Mk4 which also had the 201 and no pressurisation. I often heard the Mk4 was a better performer than the Mk5, but chaps who had flown both said it was impossible to detect any difference in performance.
Dan Winterland is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 15:48
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SW England
Age: 77
Posts: 3,896
Received 16 Likes on 4 Posts
As a nav holding awaiting the NBS course I was lucky enough to get a four week low level nav course at Linton. My first trip was in JP T5 XW300, which was almost brand new with only "delivery mileage" in the book. Great fun, my pilot Al Colesky thought I ought to learn to fly, and his version of ab initio training went - lesson one - the loop (no boring straight and level or gentle turns). With the JP5's ample power even I found I could do a pretty respectable loop with only a little nudging from Al

The aircraft didnt last long as it was written off in a fatal mid-air collision with a Sea Prince less than a year later.
Tankertrashnav is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2013, 19:02
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Southern Europe
Posts: 5,335
Received 17 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Artist
May I be the first to say that the JP was perhaps the finest example of the constant thrust, variable noise aircraft
A well-based and well-constructed bit of banter against the JP. But, as Dan Winterland says, the JP5 and the Strikemaster were different beasts. No JP was a real rocket ship, but for a little jet of its day the 5 was worlds apart from the other versions. And, you can always turn the pressurization off if you think you need the extra thrust. I cheated, very successfully, in an inter-squadron 1v1 combat competition at Chivenor, doing the same thing in the Hawk.
Courtney Mil is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.