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NutLoose 16th Feb 2013 17:01

JP5's up for sale Nine of them!
 
Sweet :)

JET PROVOSTS FOR SALE - Jet Provost File

Fox3WheresMyBanana 16th Feb 2013 17:24

Nice little runabouts and quite easy to keep. My last JP flight was through the Rocky Mountains - in one of the jets sold to private owners in the US.

500 ft MSD only applies if there are any persons, vessels, vehicles or structures; and in the Rockies, there aren't :E

Green Flash 16th Feb 2013 17:56

Blimey, I hadn't realised so many had gone over the pond, the skies of North America must be thick with 'em! :ok:
Fond memories of trips in the Linton weather ship many moons ago :) What a lovely little jet.

CoffmanStarter 16th Feb 2013 18:07

Just asked Mrs Coff if she had any ideas for my 56th birthday present yet ... got a stern look when I ... don't bother ... socks again :(

Pontius Navigator 16th Feb 2013 18:27

Buy them back in, I am sure a unit at Scampton could put them to good use.

CoffmanStarter 16th Feb 2013 18:32

PN ... Naughty boy :E

Reform The Poachers as a 9 ship Team :ok:

brokenlink 16th Feb 2013 19:15

I do hope there are some left at that nice RAF training base with the museum attached. Annual camp there for some local cadets this year, was hoping to get them a "trip" in a JP.

beardy 16th Feb 2013 20:19

They could even replace the grounded Tutors

Tiger_mate 16th Feb 2013 21:04

Brokenlink:- already too late for that one I am afraid. All taxi aircraft are Jaguar nowadays and the JP have not been started in over a year. All JP are set aside for disposal.

Beancountercymru 16th Feb 2013 21:48

Ex Cosford?
 
Tiger Mate
Are not the ones for sale those that you refer to?

The ad says "IDEAL POTENTIAL RETURN TO FLIGHT AIRCRAFT HAVING BEEN USED FOR INSTRUCTIONAL GROUND TAXI USE FOR THE TRAINING OF GROUND CREW. LAST FLOWN IN THE EARLY NINETIES BUT HAVE BEEN REGULARLY GROUND RUN, PROFESSIONALLY MAINTAINED, DRY STORED/SERVICED FOR GROUND TAXI USE UP UNTIL LAST YEAR."

CoffmanStarter 17th Feb 2013 09:07

You could always whip out the Vipers and build a new generation of MRD's (we probably only need nine these days :()... an ideal project for those thrusting young engineers at Cosford.

airborne_artist 17th Feb 2013 09:20

May I be the first to say that the JP was perhaps the finest example of the constant thrust, variable noise aircraft ;)

Bigpants 17th Feb 2013 10:09

Seat cartridges etc
 
Hmmm. Well assuming the enthusiastic engineers have not buggered, over temped the engines while starting them up and taxiing etc there is the small but expensive issue of replacing the MB cartridges in both seats.... Oh and ensuring there is a parachute in the brown bag and not a collection of rags...Oh and installing the seat properly with the top latch engaged otherwise someone might fall out the plane again while doing loopy loops....

A good aircraft if run by a decent group with sensible engineers.

Wander00 17th Feb 2013 10:11

Heck, did the JP really go out of service 20 years ago - now where is my zimmer..................

Basil 17th Feb 2013 10:21

Lovely little fun machine - but only if someone else is paying.
Never flew the 5 - been told that the pressurisation bleed reduces the power to about that of the 3 :(

Wander00 17th Feb 2013 10:23

JP3 - "power" - no, just the triumph of hope over experience!

BEagle 17th Feb 2013 10:43


Never flew the 5 - been told that the pressurisation bleed reduces the power to about that of the 3
Not true.

The JP5 had a simple, effective and reliable pressurisation system and flew very nicely indeed with the extra oomph.

Dan Winterland 17th Feb 2013 13:25

"Never flew the 5 - been told that the pressurisation bleed reduces the power to about that of the 3"

Not so. The Mk3 had a viper 101 series engine rated at 1650lbs (IIRC) and the Mk 5 had a Viper 201 series engine rated at 2450lbs (again IIRC). The Mk5 was a rocket ship compared with the athsmatic Mk3. Perhaps you are thinking of the Mk4 which also had the 201 and no pressurisation. I often heard the Mk4 was a better performer than the Mk5, but chaps who had flown both said it was impossible to detect any difference in performance.

Tankertrashnav 17th Feb 2013 15:48

As a nav holding awaiting the NBS course I was lucky enough to get a four week low level nav course at Linton. My first trip was in JP T5 XW300, which was almost brand new with only "delivery mileage" in the book. Great fun, my pilot Al Colesky thought I ought to learn to fly, and his version of ab initio training went - lesson one - the loop (no boring straight and level or gentle turns). With the JP5's ample power even I found I could do a pretty respectable loop with only a little nudging from Al

The aircraft didnt last long as it was written off in a fatal mid-air collision with a Sea Prince less than a year later.

Courtney Mil 17th Feb 2013 19:02


Originally Posted by Artist
May I be the first to say that the JP was perhaps the finest example of the constant thrust, variable noise aircraft

A well-based and well-constructed bit of banter against the JP. But, as Dan Winterland says, the JP5 and the Strikemaster were different beasts. No JP was a real rocket ship, but for a little jet of its day the 5 was worlds apart from the other versions. And, you can always turn the pressurization off if you think you need the extra thrust. I cheated, very successfully, in an inter-squadron 1v1 combat competition at Chivenor, doing the same thing in the Hawk.


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