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F-35 Cancelled, then what ?

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Old 20th Feb 2015, 07:29
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I expect GK121's apology will be along shortly when america wakes up....

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Old 20th Feb 2015, 23:01
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BBC News - £300m for RAF Marham fighter maintenance hub

So, given that Turkey is also supposedly going to be a major F-35 maintenance hub, how will this work? Will the respective hubs have to bid for maintenance work among european operators of the F-35? Or will the work be divided equally between the hubs maybe?

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Old 21st Feb 2015, 05:46
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The work will be divided according to strategic leverage. The Italians, for instance, have to be kept sweet because several dozen of their political parties favor big cutbacks to JSF.

However, the UK is out of a lot of the bidding because all its aircraft are Bs, which are different in many ways from A-models.
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Thanks for the reply, LO.

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..... or maybe not!
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Originally Posted by Rhino power
BBC News - £300m for RAF Marham fighter maintenance hub

So, given that Turkey is also supposedly going to be a major F-35 maintenance hub, how will this work? Will the respective hubs have to bid for maintenance work among european operators of the F-35? Or will the work be divided equally between the hubs maybe?

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Who knows what's going on with the F-35 program.....
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 20:26
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The whole thing is a complex convolution of commercial reality mixed with complex politics modulated by forward political projects.

The political situation in Europe is changing at the moment, that would have to be weighing heavily on any long term planning, not just in terms of the F35 and its support.
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Old 26th Feb 2015, 13:50
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https://www.f35.com/support

" The F-35 program needs your support. Write to your U.S. Senators and Congressmen to ask them to support full funding for the F-35 program. This activity is only available to supporters in the U.S."


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Old 26th Feb 2015, 15:42
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That's either a savvy 21st century marketing strategy, or a sign that someone is desperate.
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Old 26th Feb 2015, 23:52
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There's a new little issue with the Bravo - the bays cannot fit the specified number of SDB II without modification.... oops. The JSF JPO had not, until pressed by Inside Defense, previously disclosed the issue that they've "known about for some time." Love the transparency from the boys at the JPO. Kinda makes you wonder what else they haven't mentioned...

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Old 27th Feb 2015, 00:22
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There was a news article on news.com.au the other day saying it was all peaches and cream with the program, relatively speaking. And the prognostic for the aircraft was good.

can't find the link now though.
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That's either a savvy 21st century marketing strategy, or a sign that someone is desperate.
I thought I had seen it all in my working career, but I guess not. I think it is a desperate plea.

There was a news article on news.com.au the other day saying it was all peaches and cream with the program, relatively speaking. And the prognostic for the aircraft was good.can't find the link now though.
Could have been a dream?
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Old 27th Feb 2015, 02:16
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Could have been a dream?
Nah, had a look at the Australian online today, which is where most of the article come from, said much the same thing.

Don't get me wrong, it wasn't saying it was gods gift to the west. Basically said, the Chinese hadn't got hold of anything of consequence, and even though there are a few hassles, their being sorted. It also stated that the cost reductions are coming along nicely.
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Old 27th Feb 2015, 17:38
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Old 27th Feb 2015, 20:30
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Goodness, we seem to be in a world of cynicism at the moment.

Maus92, interested in your statement there. Do you have links to that? This may well prove to be an issue so I'd love to read more.
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Old 27th Feb 2015, 20:41
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Courtney ...

I believe this is the article Maus92 is referring to ...

InsideDefense.com | Exclusive national security news from inside the Pentagon
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Old 27th Feb 2015, 20:53
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As always, Coff, thank you.

Can anyone make sense of this bit?

According to DellaVedova, the JSF program has been aware of the issue for some time and expects to award Lockheed a contract later this year to complete the design changes. The F-35 is designed to carry eight precision-attack small diameter bombs internally
So if it's designed to carry them, why is anyone awarding a contract (meaning more more money) to allow it to do so? And who is paying for this really?
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Old 27th Feb 2015, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Courtney Mil
So if it's designed to carry them, why is anyone awarding a contract (meaning more more money) to allow it to do so? And who is paying for this really?
That's a good question, since it would seem LM is getting paid to fix the 'issue', rather than themselves having to fund it, and then amortising the cost over the production run of the jet?

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Old 28th Feb 2015, 06:12
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Because the Raytheon SDB-II isn't the same dimension and design as that originally specified in the LM contract?
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Old 28th Feb 2015, 09:04
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Just a guess ... But it seems that the spec is for the F-35B to carry 4 of these Bombs. There is nothing in the ref texts to indicate that the physical size of the Stores Bay (although smaller than other variants) is at fault. My guess would be that LM can't get all 4 Bombs aboard without re-routing/re-designing the hydraulic line/bracket mentioned ... But as I said ... Just a guess

As to cost ... If the original spec was for the Boeing SDB I then Raytheon who are now to provide the SDB II, need to fund the MOD's ?
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