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Old 8th Apr 2009, 15:27
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Somali pirates hijack ship; 20 Americans aboard

Somali pirates hijack ship; 20 Americans aboard

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AP – This undated image shows the 17,000-ton container ship Maersk Alabama, when it was operating under the …


By KATHARINE HOURELD, Associated Press Writer Katharine Houreld, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 21 mins ago
NAIROBI, Kenya – Somali pirates on Wednesday hijacked a U.S.-flagged cargo ship with 20 American crew members onboard, hundreds of miles from the nearest American military vessel in some of the most dangerous waters in the world.
The 17,000-ton Maersk Alabama was carrying emergency relief to Mombasa, Kenya, when it was hijacked, said Peter Beck-Bang, spokesman for the Copenhagen-based container shipping group A.P. Moller-Maersk. It was the sixth ship seized within a week, a rise that analysts attribute to a new strategy by Somali pirates who are operating far from the warships patrolling the Gulf of Aden.
The company confirmed that the U.S.-flagged vessel has 20 U.S. nationals onboard.
Cmdr. Jane Campbell, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, said that it was the first pirate attack "involving U.S. nationals and a U.S.-flagged vessel in recent memory." She did not give an exact timeframe.
When asked how the U.S. Navy plans to deal with the hijacking, Campbell said: "It's fair to say we are closely monitoring the situation, but we will not discuss nor speculate on current and future military operations."
It was not clear whether the pirates knew they were hijacking a ship with American crew.
"It's a very significant foreign policy challenge for the Obama administration," said Graeme Gibbon Brooks, managing director of the British company Dryad Maritime Intelligence Service Ltd. "Their citizens are in the hands of criminals and people are waiting to see what happens."
Brooks and other analysts interviewed by the AP declined to speculate on whether American military forces might attempt a rescue operation. A senior Navy official in Washington said the Obama administration was talking to the shipping company to learn "the who, what, why, where and when" of the hijacking.
The U.S. Navy confirmed that the ship was hijacked early Wednesday about 280 miles (450 kilometers) southeast of Eyl, a town in the northern Puntland region of Somalia.
U.S. Navy spokesman Lt. Nathan Christensen said the closest U.S. ship at the time of the hijacking was 345 miles (555 kilometers)away.
"The area, the ship was taken in, is not where the focus of our ships has been," Christensen told The Associated Press by phone from the 5th Fleet's Mideast headquarters in Bahrain. "The area we're patrolling is more than a million miles in size. Our ships cannot be everywhere at every time."
Somali pirates are trained fighters who frequently dress in military fatigues and use speedboats equipped with satellite phones and GPS equipment. They are typically armed with automatic weapons, anti-tank rocket launchers and various types of grenades. Far out to sea, their speedboats operate from larger mother ships.
Most hijackings end with million-dollar payouts. Piracy is considered the biggest moneymaker in Somalia, a country that has had no stable government for decades. Roger Middleton, a piracy expert at the London-based think-tank Chatham House, said pirates took up to $80 million in ransoms last year.
A NATO official said from Brussels that the alliance's five warships were patrolling the Gulf of Aden at the time of attack.
"That's where most of the shipping goes through and we can provide most of the protection in that vital trade route," said the official who asked not to be identified under standing rules.
The official said the taking of the crude-filled Saudi supertanker Sirius Star also happened in open water far off the Somali coastline. The Sirius Star was released in January,
NATO has five warships that patrol the region alongside three frigates from the European Union. The U.S. Navy normally keeps between five to 10 ships on station off the Somali coast. The navies of India, China, Japan, Russia and other nations also cooperate in the international patrols.
NATO sees piracy as a long-term problem and is planning to deploy a permanent flotilla to the region this summer.
On March 29, a NATO supply ship itself came under attack by Somali pirates who appear to have mistaken it for a merchant ship. The crew quickly overcame the attackers, boarded their boat and captured seven.
This is the second time that Somali pirates have seized a ship belonging to the privately held shipping group A.P. Moller-Maersk. In February 2008, the towing vessel Svitzer Korsakov from the A.P. Moller-Maersk company Svitzer was briefly seized by pirates.
Before this latest hijacking, Somali pirates were holding 14 vessels and about 200 crew members, according to the International Maritime Bureau.
IMHO it would be nice to see the elements of the Nighstalkers to go back to their anti surface vessels days from the adventures of the Persian Gulf in the 80s (Operation Praying Mantis and Prime Chance)

However what rotary assets do the nearest CG and DDG carry? Either newish MH-60R, or the conventional SH-60B/F armed with Hellfire hopefully if not, on the replenishment vessels, MH-60S Knighthawks hopefully with 7.62MM gimpy.

Plus theres a det of SEALS anyway nearby , and theres assets from CENTCOM/AFRICOM at Camp whatchacallit in Djibouti....

If the law of the seas are violated, then one must be able to enforce the law to the best possible extent. Got the assets and hoepfully the law, so USE THEM.

Get the SEALS to fast rope or if too dangerous, by Zodiacs or even sub if theres around. Then have the H-60s to provide cover
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perchance?
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The solution to the problem

Declare that any vessel carrying armed illegal combatants engaged in or believed to be engaged in acts of terrorism (aka piracy) mwill be attacked and sunk on siight. A Hellfire or Sea Skua would do the job nicely as would a a vulcan cannon.

Problem solved. Just sink a few, kill the terrorists and they will stop.
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Maybe this will get sorted now that 20 yanks have been taken !
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Maybe this will get sorted now that 20 yanks have been taken !
See... For all the whining the world does about the USA the above statement demonstrates a very sad point. Numerous countries have had ships taken. Several, (if not all), have paid ransom to get their ships back. None, have done anything to get their ship or people back that would ensure the behaviour does not continue. They have all chickened out waiting for the Yanks to suffer a loss and have them do something about it. But if the USA had stepped forward before all we would have heard would have been the shrill whine of "Old Europe", tutting and clucking about how America should stop being a bully.
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CNN reporting now that the crew have retaken control of the ship.
Pirates probably wish they had never screwed around with this one !!!!!
I really hope they American merchant marines used there head for a mop and their ass for a broom.
God bless them.
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You wont catch me saying bully boys ,
personaly i think u should be involved ages a go , take someone to stand up to them and it looks like its only going to be the yanks or the asusies !
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1 captured, 3 'dropped' over the side!
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Hopefully with a bouyancy aid, such as an anchor shackle.
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Surely an anchor shackle is too heavy to be used as a buoyancy aid. I think you will find that they would probably sink if they held on to it in the water.
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I am willing to bet that water boarding is the least of this Somalis concern now ha ha.
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Good point, well made.
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I am usually flexible in these things but the link to military aviation in this thread is beyond tenuous.
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I am usually flexible in these things but the link to military aviation in this thread is beyond tenuous
The Yanks are going to bomb it... But that's a secret, ok?
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How long before the Americans decide to use "bait ships" with marines on-board I wonder?
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How long before the Americans decide to use "bait ships" with marines on-board I wonder?
Q-ships I believe is the term.

How about a naturalist expedition with a few scientists - like 45 Commando or whoever
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Perhaps this was one.
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PN,

If they go Commando, surely it will be a Naturist expedition?
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Perhaps this was one.
How many merchant vessels would have 20 Americans in the crew? Most vessels of this kind have a few European or American officers and the rest are seamen from third world countries.

Definitely a set up as far as I can see.
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If the ship had made it to one of the pirate harbours, I can only hope that the USN commander on the spot would have dragged out his copy of 'Black Hawk Down' to learn his lines - the very same ones the USN Admiral off the coast of Mogadishu used on the Somali warlord who told him it would take months of negotiations before the Americans would get their captured chopper pilot back.

And Airborne Aircrew, I have to say I think you hit the nail squarely on the head with your comments.

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