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Anyone who was there care to let us know if it's true that a certain snr Mngr had a profanity laced outburst blaming pprune for recruitment issues?
I didn't know pprune fecked the rosters and leave and gave us the pay cuts. Can we sue?
They are consistently muppets these manager types.
They are consistently muppets these manager types.
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To be fair on the management PPRUNE is certainly the reason that I didn't apply.
In my experience when management starts to cut pay and conditions, they never want to stop, it never turns around and improves. It also appears that as they now take turboprop Pilots that Emirates is no longer a career airline but more a first Jet Airline or first command; prior to the move into a career company.
The unmentionable on the other hand. I didn't apply because they were unmentionable on PPRUNE which didn't seem to be good.
At least in China conditions have pretty consistently been on the up. I now have a well paid and lovely commuting contract. There are cons though...initial training and medical primarily.
In my experience when management starts to cut pay and conditions, they never want to stop, it never turns around and improves. It also appears that as they now take turboprop Pilots that Emirates is no longer a career airline but more a first Jet Airline or first command; prior to the move into a career company.
The unmentionable on the other hand. I didn't apply because they were unmentionable on PPRUNE which didn't seem to be good.
At least in China conditions have pretty consistently been on the up. I now have a well paid and lovely commuting contract. There are cons though...initial training and medical primarily.
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I agree with KP.
The reason I'm not even considering the dust bowl or EK is because of the cr@p about them I see on PPruNe. (Plus I don't want to be lynched... )
So actually, PPruNe is an excellent recruitment tool - it filters out all the sh*t airlines so pilots go elsewhere
The reason I'm not even considering the dust bowl or EK is because of the cr@p about them I see on PPruNe. (Plus I don't want to be lynched... )
So actually, PPruNe is an excellent recruitment tool - it filters out all the sh*t airlines so pilots go elsewhere
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Let me just add that the other reason I decided against Dubai was having worked for a previous company who believed Pilot fatigue was good business, I was never about to enter a "career airline" who followed that fatigue policy.
I hope after this year that there will have been a few changes in that regard!
I hope after this year that there will have been a few changes in that regard!
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I think the point, if it's true, is that said manager doesn't recognize the root cause of complaints as the reason for postings but rather - it's just negative threads for the sake of negative threads.
If that's the problem solving mentality of this particular Fleet Mgr, he is in WAY over his head.
If that's the problem solving mentality of this particular Fleet Mgr, he is in WAY over his head.
I didn't apply because I read how knackered you blokes are. I earn about 80% of what you guys earn but I have a slightly better roster and get my annual leave to spend with my family. I think my roster is pretty bad but it is definitely better than most of the EK examples I have read about. I figure I would have to spend the extra 20% salary on health issues in my later years anyway.....or maybe paying out the wife!
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[QUOTE=kungfu panda;9616284]To be fair on the management PPRUNE is certainly the reason that I didn't apply.
I don't think Pprune is the reason.
I think you mean that you didn't apply because you read on Pprune what it is like to work at Emirates and live in UAE. Cold, hard facts and if management can't handle the truth then they should act to change it, rather than simply blaming people for writing about it.
I don't think Pprune is the reason.
I think you mean that you didn't apply because you read on Pprune what it is like to work at Emirates and live in UAE. Cold, hard facts and if management can't handle the truth then they should act to change it, rather than simply blaming people for writing about it.
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It has always seemed to me that the thoughts expressed on here, regardless of the airline concerned, are the sincerely believed opinions of those that take the time to post them. Therefore, those opinions are the truth as the writers see them.
In that case, if the TCAS II got upset, the need is to look inwardly (within the organisation) and change what is driving dissent. Or live with it. Either way, getting angry (or even) ain't a solution.
In that case, if the TCAS II got upset, the need is to look inwardly (within the organisation) and change what is driving dissent. Or live with it. Either way, getting angry (or even) ain't a solution.
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Why would you base such a life changing decision by what you read on PPRuNe? If you want to know what the real story is, call someone you know in the company. We all know 90% of what you read on here is BS. I'm not saying where I sit on the fence, but I called a few friends at EK and got the real story. Hint: PPRuNe isn't entirely accurate.
Of course it's all dependent on what you're used to and where you're from - if you joined EK as a young turboprop pilot after getting laid off from a small airline in the developing world, it's actually quite nice.
Why would you base such a life changing decision by what you read on PPRuNe?
There are plenty of Airlines paying similar money that don't fudge the sign on time, who do less stick and duty hours, and who treat their pilots with less disrespect. It's a really good way to sort the bottom feeders from outfits that might be ok.
Also, pprune prompted me to get in touch with a friend of a friend who works there, apparently pprune is correct.
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It was JA the muppet who stated such stuff during the last Pilot Forums and he said as well how proud he is about the latest bs recruitment videos.
Asked about the high number of resignations he of course gave no answer.
At least he enjoys reading PPRuNe with his costa, hopefully he is next on the his way out!
Asked about the high number of resignations he of course gave no answer.
At least he enjoys reading PPRuNe with his costa, hopefully he is next on the his way out!