fliion

Anyone who was there care to let us know if it's true that a certain snr Mngr had a profanity laced outburst blaming pprune for recruitment issues?

donpizmeov

I didn't know pprune fecked the rosters and leave and gave us the pay cuts. Can we sue?

They are consistently muppets these manager types.

777boyindubai

Classic EK Management. Blame their own failures on others.

sluggums

Good. I hope it gives the oxygen thief sleepless nights, just like we have to contend with.

kungfu panda

To be fair on the management PPRUNE is certainly the reason that I didn't apply.

In my experience when management starts to cut pay and conditions, they never want to stop, it never turns around and improves. It also appears that as they now take turboprop Pilots that Emirates is no longer a career airline but more a first Jet Airline or first command; prior to the move into a career company.

The unmentionable on the other hand. I didn't apply because they were unmentionable on PPRUNE which didn't seem to be good.

At least in China conditions have pretty consistently been on the up. I now have a well paid and lovely commuting contract. There are cons though...initial training and medical primarily.

crablab

I agree with KP.
The reason I'm not even considering the dust bowl or EK is because of the cr@p about them I see on PPruNe. (Plus I don't want to be lynched... )

So actually, PPruNe is an excellent recruitment tool - it filters out all the sh*t airlines so pilots go elsewhere

kungfu panda

Let me just add that the other reason I decided against Dubai was having worked for a previous company who believed Pilot fatigue was good business, I was never about to enter a "career airline" who followed that fatigue policy.

I hope after this year that there will have been a few changes in that regard!

fliion

I think the point, if it's true, is that said manager doesn't recognize the root cause of complaints as the reason for postings but rather - it's just negative threads for the sake of negative threads.

If that's the problem solving mentality of this particular Fleet Mgr, he is in WAY over his head.

ruserious

Reap what you sow, you generally get the reputation you deserve

framer

I didn't apply because I read how knackered you blokes are. I earn about 80% of what you guys earn but I have a slightly better roster and get my annual leave to spend with my family. I think my roster is pretty bad but it is definitely better than most of the EK examples I have read about. I figure I would have to spend the extra 20% salary on health issues in my later years anyway.....or maybe paying out the wife!

ruserious

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Spikedog

[QUOTE=kungfu panda;9616284]To be fair on the management PPRUNE is certainly the reason that I didn't apply.


I don't think Pprune is the reason.

I think you mean that you didn't apply because you read on Pprune what it is like to work at Emirates and live in UAE. Cold, hard facts and if management can't handle the truth then they should act to change it, rather than simply blaming people for writing about it.

kungfu panda

I can never make the quote work either...

Mr Good Cat

Which manager are we talking about? Pilot or admin staff?

Eau de Boeing

I'm guessing EGT?

WakeTurb_69

The new age restrictions on command (that was so intelligently dreamed up by the complete f#$cking morons higher up) may have something to do with it!

trimotor

It has always seemed to me that the thoughts expressed on here, regardless of the airline concerned, are the sincerely believed opinions of those that take the time to post them. Therefore, those opinions are the truth as the writers see them.

In that case, if the TCAS II got upset, the need is to look inwardly (within the organisation) and change what is driving dissent. Or live with it. Either way, getting angry (or even) ain't a solution.

Mr Good Cat

Well I'm an ex EK skipper and I'm not bitter about my time in the company BUT, I'm afraid your friends are lying if they're telling you that things are okay in the company. There are lots of problems, most can't be cured. But that's the way it is, the only way to change things for the better is to leave if you have that option. If not, try to make the most of what you have and don't get dragged down by the understandable negativity.

Of course it's all dependent on what you're used to and where you're from - if you joined EK as a young turboprop pilot after getting laid off from a small airline in the developing world, it's actually quite nice.

framer

The volume of negative posts over the last two years says a lot. Also, flight time per month is pretty cut and dried ( unless you fudge the sign on time). Unless the WSJ and all the pprune posts are wrong then that is enough for me to cull an Airline from my list.
There are plenty of Airlines paying similar money that don't fudge the sign on time, who do less stick and duty hours, and who treat their pilots with less disrespect. It's a really good way to sort the bottom feeders from outfits that might be ok.
Also, pprune prompted me to get in touch with a friend of a friend who works there, apparently pprune is correct.

Talparc

It was JA the muppet who stated such stuff during the last Pilot Forums and he said as well how proud he is about the latest bs recruitment videos.
Asked about the high number of resignations he of course gave no answer.
At least he enjoys reading PPRuNe with his costa, hopefully he is next on the his way out!