Flydubai B737 Type Qualification program
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Flydubai B737 Type Qualification program
So hi
I'm 19year old with 250 hours, live in Belgium.
I'm about to sign contract with CAE training center in Dubai for the B737 type qualification program CAE/Flydubai...
details are here:
https://pilot.cae.com/Programs/FlyDubai.aspx
Any advice on how my future will look is really appreciated..
Thanks
I'm 19year old with 250 hours, live in Belgium.
I'm about to sign contract with CAE training center in Dubai for the B737 type qualification program CAE/Flydubai...
details are here:
https://pilot.cae.com/Programs/FlyDubai.aspx
Any advice on how my future will look is really appreciated..
Thanks
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I have been told -also by Flydubai employees- that most of the people who do the program end up with the job...
@Shooting_Star No. I completed integrated flight training and then did an ACPP course (MCC+JOC B737) at CAE Brussels
@Shooting_Star No. I completed integrated flight training and then did an ACPP course (MCC+JOC B737) at CAE Brussels
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Going out buying popcorn... :/
First, I do not support the programmes with the scheme of buying something with the chance to get a job... maybe... OR - maybe - NOT.
You pay a whole bunch of money for a TR. Soft version of P2F. Yes, of course in the modern world this scheme is considered normal, BUT at least just pay if you sign a contract - before TR.. The you will not only be "considered" (or having "the opportunity to be assessed") after paying 10,15 or 20k.
But next to this, if you're not even qualified according to FlyDubai as they have as the first requirement:
"• Age: Minimum 20 years / Maximum 30 years (before your 30th birthday)".
You just said you´re 19.
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You pay a whole bunch of money for a TR. Soft version of P2F. Yes, of course in the modern world this scheme is considered normal, BUT at least just pay if you sign a contract - before TR.. The you will not only be "considered" (or having "the opportunity to be assessed") after paying 10,15 or 20k.
But next to this, if you're not even qualified according to FlyDubai as they have as the first requirement:
"• Age: Minimum 20 years / Maximum 30 years (before your 30th birthday)".
You just said you´re 19.
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I heard (so not factual) that there will also be NO flight pay (and/or allowances ) and the basic pay is about 2/3rd of the other f/o's. Training pay 12K AED, then 17K, 20K until...? Please check this as Dubai is expensive and know what you are getting into before signing!
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I assume CAE is relatively legit compared to the other P2F things out there.
I have a contact person who works for CAE in Brussels and in Dubai, and he says there should be no problem at all with succesfully ending up with the F/O position there. He is a personal friend of me and my parents.
Anyway it remains a gamble of 33K USD. As you would guess my parents are funding my training and they are really motivating me to go there and do it...
On the other hand, I would also like to study here with my friends, go to university for a few years, get my instructor rating in the meantime, build hours slowly here and there and look for an opportunity...
The problem here is that I know alot of people who have been looking for a airline job for a looong time, so maybe I won't get this opportunity again.. Thats what I'm worried about that if i decide to stop university, and really want to fly that I'll be pissed that I didn't go to Dubai.
I have a contact person who works for CAE in Brussels and in Dubai, and he says there should be no problem at all with succesfully ending up with the F/O position there. He is a personal friend of me and my parents.
Anyway it remains a gamble of 33K USD. As you would guess my parents are funding my training and they are really motivating me to go there and do it...
On the other hand, I would also like to study here with my friends, go to university for a few years, get my instructor rating in the meantime, build hours slowly here and there and look for an opportunity...
The problem here is that I know alot of people who have been looking for a airline job for a looong time, so maybe I won't get this opportunity again.. Thats what I'm worried about that if i decide to stop university, and really want to fly that I'll be pissed that I didn't go to Dubai.
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I'm trying to decide with the help of my friends and parents but most of them do not understand the risk involved.. Especially ending up with the 737 TR, without job and without the money that could have got me an instructor rating and quite some flight hours..
And the last thing on my mind is, I'm just turning 20, and assuming that in some way I get hired by FDB, I'm gonna be in Dubai, on my own, while all my friends are still studying.. Will I enjoy the life? I love flying but maybe I have to calm down and enjoy life and not be blinded by that
250hours and shiny jet syndrome..
However my mate, who did Flt Training at CAE, got hired by Ryanair, and after 2 weeks in Barca he's moving to Brussels airport!! I mean, I want that too, eventually, whatever it takes.
As you can see I have no idea what to decide. But time ticks and I'm sitting here doing nothing
And the last thing on my mind is, I'm just turning 20, and assuming that in some way I get hired by FDB, I'm gonna be in Dubai, on my own, while all my friends are still studying.. Will I enjoy the life? I love flying but maybe I have to calm down and enjoy life and not be blinded by that
250hours and shiny jet syndrome..
However my mate, who did Flt Training at CAE, got hired by Ryanair, and after 2 weeks in Barca he's moving to Brussels airport!! I mean, I want that too, eventually, whatever it takes.
As you can see I have no idea what to decide. But time ticks and I'm sitting here doing nothing
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To answer your question.. I would honestly not be in trouble, financially, as my father understand the risk and thinks the same.
Otherwise, I would ofcourse be ashamed to tell people about the loss of 33K for a useless TR, as this also spoils my chances to get into Ryanair. And I'd love to fly for RYR....
And with the lost money in the bad case scenario( 33Kusd+ costs involved getting there, hotels...) I could go to university and get an FI rating you know...
To answer your question.. I would honestly not be in trouble, financially, as my father understand the risk and thinks the same.
Otherwise, I would ofcourse be ashamed to tell people about the loss of 33K for a useless TR, as this also spoils my chances to get into Ryanair. And I'd love to fly for RYR....
And with the lost money in the bad case scenario( 33Kusd+ costs involved getting there, hotels...) I could go to university and get an FI rating you know...
So many people have done this program and virtually nobody has been accepted. Don't waste your 33k on it. Your 19 there is no rush. The aviation industry will probably boom and bust again before your thirtieth birthday!
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I know of someone who went through the program and was hired by FlyDubai. He had previously done the MCC course on the B737NG and so it was a bit easier for him. The CAE course (Dubai) is an intense program and Fly Dubai will send an examiner to sit in on your check-ride. If you do well in their opinion, they will call you for an office interview and hopefully employment. If you need remedial training of any kind (extra simulator, failed checkride) you will not be considered by FD. CAE does not tell you this because of sales. It's a gamble either way. Some have got in, others have not.
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very simple...ask CAE to provide you specific details on how many took the course, and how many were accepted into FlyDubai, and last but not least, how many that made it into Fly Dubai successfully made it online..
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If you do well in their opinion, they will call you for an office interview and hopefully employment
Forking out 33000 USD if you have no clue if you have what the airlines are looking for is not a good idea. The flying part is just a small piece of that puzzle.
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Pls keep us updated if you decide to go through this.
If you don't do well in the procedure trainer you are not going to fly dubai
If you don't do well in the sim you are not going to fly dubai
If you don't pass the evaluation you are not going to fly dubai
If you do get to line training , if you don't pass in the necessary sectors , you are out and there is no coming back
Lots of opportunities to go home even after the money is paid
CAE do not make the hiring decisions , it is usually the operations manger , chief pilot or head of training. Don't be fooled by the brochure, your friend might have good intentions but he is misinforming you in saying that you will have no problems becoming an FO. The training slots are not guarenteed and priority will always be experienced pilots and emirati cadets.
If you don't do well in the procedure trainer you are not going to fly dubai
If you don't do well in the sim you are not going to fly dubai
If you don't pass the evaluation you are not going to fly dubai
If you do get to line training , if you don't pass in the necessary sectors , you are out and there is no coming back
Lots of opportunities to go home even after the money is paid
CAE do not make the hiring decisions , it is usually the operations manger , chief pilot or head of training. Don't be fooled by the brochure, your friend might have good intentions but he is misinforming you in saying that you will have no problems becoming an FO. The training slots are not guarenteed and priority will always be experienced pilots and emirati cadets.
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Thanks for the feedback.
It is in the contract that when one fails the TR, or requires additional simulator training during the program, theres automatically no more chance to get into FDB.
I also did the MCC+JOC on 737NG, 28hours. And I have also flown with that guy on the sim and he says my flying and SOP and cockpit management and PF/PM work is good.. but still theres absolutely no guarantee, I know
It is in the contract that when one fails the TR, or requires additional simulator training during the program, theres automatically no more chance to get into FDB.
I also did the MCC+JOC on 737NG, 28hours. And I have also flown with that guy on the sim and he says my flying and SOP and cockpit management and PF/PM work is good.. but still theres absolutely no guarantee, I know
Paul,
I find your post very suspicious. Your saying 7 out of 8 people got accepted?
If that was the case prune would be swamped with people talking about it.
I call Bulls$&t on you.
I find your post very suspicious. Your saying 7 out of 8 people got accepted?
If that was the case prune would be swamped with people talking about it.
I call Bulls$&t on you.