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Old 16th Jul 2008, 06:59   #21 (permalink)
 
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fo4ever- Where did you get that 'fact' from?
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 07:56   #22 (permalink)
 
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 10:48   #23 (permalink)
 
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maybe its a lack of sleep

maybe its a lack of sleep from flying back from deepest Africa all night but i couldnt find anything on the emirates website for FlyDubai flight crew. any links/email address/contacts would be appreciated.
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Old 19th Jul 2008, 18:37   #24 (permalink)
 
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Even with more attractive lease-rates on offered from Airbus, the B737NG is cheaper to operate. This told to me last week by a Wall Street analyst.

TIFWIW.
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mirdif, you are joking right?
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 10:03   #26 (permalink)
 
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Lots of mechanical linkages? ooooookayyyy.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 17:49   #27 (permalink)
 
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hogwash

Quote: Its now a fact that EK 777 FOs will do their upgrade on FlyDubai 737.

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Complete, utter and universal hogwash. Hard rule: No drink before email or PPRuNe post, understand??

Why don't you go to EGHQ, take the lift to 9th floor, look for the FlyDubai project office and have a chat with Ken Gile - the COO?

He might even talk to you.
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Old 20th Jul 2008, 18:15   #28 (permalink)
 
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C'mom boys give mirdif a break. He probably hasn't been to Phoenix or Tucson, Arizona in the summer when it's 40-48C everyday. Or Denver at almost 6000 ft. when it's 38-40C. I just keep forgetting that Southwest has to shut down for days at a time because their, what, 300+ 737s can't operate or have problems with "linkage". Or how about Copa in Panama that regularly flies into 8000 foot airports on 40c days near the equator.

Geez!

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Old 24th Jul 2008, 06:42   #29 (permalink)
 
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FlyforDubai

Does anyone have any information regarding FlyforDubai? Their website says to apply via emirates website. But the emirates website does not have any special section for them on the application or otherwise.
I was told they were to start in June-July of 2009 after having placed a big order for the B737NG (54). Emirates is supposed to get them set up and then they will be on their own.
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Old 24th Jul 2008, 06:58   #30 (permalink)
 
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It's actually called 'Fly Dubai'. Sorry did not see any link either to job applications.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 02:38   #31 (permalink)
 
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It appears that you have to apply as though you are applying for a job at Emirates and you are screened through the process. As it stands the requirements for Capts and F/O's are the same as Emirates. If you don't meet the mins (8000 hrs with 3000 PIC for Capts) you will get an automated response telling you to apply again when you meet the requirements. Unless they tweak the program where there is some link or place on the app to put in FlyDubai, you are basically completing an Emirates App. I think that they will be tailoring an app for FlyDubai in the near future or screen applicants from the Emirates side.

It will be interesting to see what the pay package and T&C are like. If they are somewhat similar FlyDubai might be a better place to hang your hat. You would be home more often without having to pass through numerous time zones etc etc... Ofcourse no wide-body flying.
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 15:31   #32 (permalink)
 
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FlyDubai = Emirates Pay

Salary per month Value in AED
Basic salary 25,000
Housing allowance 16,000
Transportation allowance 4,000
Variable Flying Pay *
(based on working an 80 hour month) 12,000
Projected Total 57,000


....and I thought the whole concept of LLC was to have low overheads.... OH! Hang on.... does that mean EK is actually paying me a LOW COST salary... but they told us about bench marks and all the fancy words. So now we can say we are the FIRST low cost A380 operator... and we all know how important it is to be FIRST in everything
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 16:48   #33 (permalink)
 
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and I thought the whole concept of LLC was to have low overheads
No, part of the original LCC model (Southwest, easyJet, Ryanair) was to pay staff well, in order to attract and retain them, but to keep structures simple (such as paying allowences rather than actually supplying accomodation).

Southwest have some of the best paid pilots in the world.

FlyDubai are going to require a shed-load of experienced, type rated pilots. Why wouldn't they pay what was required to get them?

After all, EK has obviously paid enough to attract and retain you....
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 16:53   #34 (permalink)
 
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If you think Fly Dubai is better than EK than all the power to you , have fun, but down keep talking about it or bitching about it.You want LCC its yours for the taking. They did have to some how be better than AA, im sure that was their goal.
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 17:23   #35 (permalink)
 
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Im here to testify that AA will be kicking some of that fly dubai Azzzzz for sho!
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 18:12   #36 (permalink)
 
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Whats AA?

Whats AA? New airline? Where.

cheers
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 18:21   #37 (permalink)
 
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AA= Air Arabia, 320 LC operator been around a few years now and doing well for themselves.
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 18:26   #38 (permalink)
 
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Air Arabia rocks!
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 18:29   #39 (permalink)
 
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Oh Ok..

Oh Ok, totally different fleet though.

How does the pay compare in air arabia to fly dubai, considering a 80 hours roster. Also the base being sharjah, how is life there?
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 18:39   #40 (permalink)
 
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Wizzfoz... dubai property market and kite surfing is what is keeping me.
Fatboy... you need new reading glasses. I wasnt saying I WANT LLC. I was commenting on we already are paid LLC wages. Get it now?
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