Sorry, where's the contradiction? I believe the term "paradox" comes closer.
I had two points, both aimed at those who feel they are desperate enough (read: unemployed) to join. Both are designed to try and convince them that perhaps they are not quite as desperate as they think. I did join after a furlough and have regretted every day since. Since many are in the same position I was, and are pursuing the position I have, is there not some logic in offering a first-hand experience? It's only restating what many others are saying.
The one point is that if it is job security you seek, talk to the recently "resigned", and ask about their experiences. You are secure as your last flight, and the rest is - like Dubai - an illusion and a lie.
The other is that not all of the people leaving are unfamiliar with the challenges of unemployment - and yet, still can't wait to voluntarily leave and are actively seeking, and in limited cases finding, employment elsewhere.
People are free to draw their own conclusions from these facts, I am only stating them. I mentioned the multiple layoffs to underline the fact that some, (I am hardly the only one), of those who should seemingly want to cling to a job are working hard to achieve the opposite.
The good news is that i took my name off the list 6 months ago before any class offerings went out. The irony about the pool is that when i interviewed early last year, i had numerous of my colleagues excited for me. They kept asking questions about dubai and life as an ek pilot.
Fast forward to present day and i just had a chap ask me if i was leaving for dubai. I said no without elaborating and he mentioned that emirates was on a slide downhill and that he had heard numerous bad things about dubai and ek. Just imagine that in a matter of a year, emirates has gone from a employer of choice to just another airline. I only say a year since that is the only time frame that i have experienced dealing with emirates and that alone was not a joyable experience.
The word on the street is to not apply unless you are out of work.
Looks like it did. Last comment posted 20 August. Suppose everybody is flying too many hours to have time to post any gripes. Or perhaps it indicates employees have simply adjusted to the new "climate."
I got the same email the other day. TT 8100 and 4000 on B744.
I'm not holding my breath. They will probably have plenty of qualified guys in the pool to get through first. If they still have a requirement after that, and I suppose they could well do given their order book, then they may look through the more recent applications. Wouldn't expect anything before next year although I would be pleased and not a little relived to be proved totally wrong.
i think that if they were plenty of people inside a holding pool,they wouldn't reopen the first officer position for new screening new screening should be supposed to be held on october as far as i know
Some of the people in the holding pool have been there some time according to the postings here. Some will no longer qualify under the new criteria, some will not bother going for a reassessment, especially as you have to pay your own airfare, some will have lapsed in recency etc etc. That will still leave plenty to fill any courses this year IMHO, the call for further applications will be to have another pool of potential recruits for the next 12 - 24 months. There have been statements to the effect that total recruitment for 2010 will be well down on previous years and the actual delivery schedules have been subject to delays. Given the lead times in getting pilots in and trained, they are probably looking 1 to 2 years ahead for people applying now. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, I would love a job next year because in 12 months, my recency will be out the window as well and after that I will be looking at B&Q, unless there is a big improvement in economic conditions.
Again, I really hope that I am unduly pessimistic.
hi i m waseem i had interviewed on 7th July 2012 and i was informed through main that i have been selected/shortlisted hold pool. what does it mean hold pool and no future healthy response from ek till date.
I am mostly a lurker here.... just watch what is going on... Just felt to put my 2 cents...
I am 2 years in EK on the small airbus fleet and safe to say to all those whiners out there that has been the best decision I have ever made!! Life is great flying even on the airbus is sometimes tiresome but in no way compared to what you fly in a regional european carrier which destroy you! Dont think twice of trying to get in... Good luck to all!