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Old 15th Feb 2013, 09:49   #6001 (permalink)
 
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Rk303,
Qatar Airways is such a respectable airline....., that recently They (QR) were forced to call the Etihadairways recruitment department ,to please them to put a cap on the number of QR pilots they interview each month!!
I "love" the way QR is always trying to solve issues....
Whaaat to do....

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Old 15th Feb 2013, 18:36   #6002 (permalink)
 
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PilotofDoha

Thank you very much for the good news, im sure that more than one will PM you even if you said not to do . I hope mine is one of that contracts , however i wont be that lucky because I know some people has been in the pool longer than me.

According to a friend inside Qatar that went the other day to the office, he was told that "thanks" to the grounding of the B787s some A320 instructors that were just upgrade to the Nightmareliner are back in Sim so other A320 instructors are free to fly on the line as much as possible and train people, so this will help to speed up a bit the pool and specially some captains that they need to check out asap.

Now also im sure they will get some people from Bahrain Air, that just stop operation, and thats an easy place to pick up some experience pilots, specially DEC.

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Old 15th Feb 2013, 21:00   #6003 (permalink)
 
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PilotofDoha

These NTSO contract will probably be for Qatari nationals who have followed the sponsored course through the National flight academy.
They told me and others, No SO's anymore in 2013. This was also confirmed by numerous NTSO's in Qatar at the moment.
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Old 16th Feb 2013, 09:35   #6004 (permalink)
 
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datdude you are right, he put so much energy on this forum, its like he has no job, tell people the thruth
Once again you harrass.

All I can say, is my efforts behind the scenes have helped many here and that you will never give credit or even know, because if revealed, im revealed. I dont need recognition, I just want to rattle your cage to the reality of being here, otherwise all your going to get is golden goose egg talk from inexp wannabe's (nothing is wrong with being motivated/excited but too much of it is unhealthy)

If you dont like what I say (and I admit its harsh at times), your entitled to that, but PilotofDoha and Datdude bare in mind Doha and Qatar Airways is a small place , so you better think twice about the insults and harrasment you give.

@datdude and PilotofDoha:
before you openly criticise...... Please read below.
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40&80:
What gives my friend?
Could be...Continual Jet lag combined with high stress and lack of a varied lifestyle becoming too close and too involved in a unrewarding job in a hostile country whilst being overly concerned for others who do not really give a damn about you (thats you people on this forum).... Ignorant uneducated and innocent abroad chaps like me did it years ago (datdude & PilotofDoha)....... you tend to slightly grow out of it as you age but it is essentially in your DNA to care for others and there is presently no vaccination I know of available against it.
Thanks 40&80 (I added the parenthesis for those that may be lacking in english or understanding), ..... some inexp.pilots take alot for granted, sadly.


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These NTSO contract will probably be for Qatari nationals who have followed the sponsored course through the National flight academy.
Correct.
All the "friends" reports of no hiring of SO's from holdpool for 2013 are mostly correct and have been what I have been saying.
Some capts come back from 787 to train, but will not help holdpool applicants much at all (not sure how that conclusion came about). It may help those waiting here 130+!
Still some trickle hiring of DEC/FO's throughout, mostly DEC's.

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Old 16th Feb 2013, 17:29   #6005 (permalink)
 
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I'm not in the talent pool, I've been here for about 7 months now and training has gone on par with a lot of other people already mentioned on this thread. Yes I am lucky I am in, I think it will be a great job when the training is out of the way, patience. A lot of it is required.
Regarding the hold pool. You have done a lot of work for the interview and well done on passing, seriously congratulations, no sarcasm at all. It shows that you put in a serious amount of effort into securing a fantastic opportunity, it is just unfortunate circumstances that have hindered your career progression.
Passing the Qatar selection should give you a great boost for your confidence. If it comes to the situation that you have to look for alternative employment, you know you'll probably have a very good shout at another opportunity in the knowledge you are good enough for Qatar, it's just unfortunate they couldn't accommodate you at this point. Their loss. Another airlines gain.
I know you won't want to hear it, but Qatar isn't, hasn't and won't be the last airline in the world to let down people in hold pools. Please remember the guys and girls who tried their luck with BA, that golden ticket to have an amazing moustache, an English accent belonging to not one English county and by deed pole change your name to Nigel. Not saying it's right, it isn't in the slightest, but it is the nature of the beast. Aviation is brutal, when it goes your way it is the best high, when it doesn't there isn't much back up. Good luck to everyone in the talent pool, genuinely, I hope you all find alternative solutions somewhere soon (or Qatar call you, naturally!) Flying or not, pay the bills, keep the wife happy and if you can afford to, kick the nuts off an aerobat and have some fun, life is for living not waiting.
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Old 16th Feb 2013, 18:33   #6006 (permalink)
 
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Aviation is brutal, when it goes your way it is the best high, when it doesn't there isn't much back up. Good luck to everyone in the talent pool, genuinely, I hope you all find alternative solutions somewhere soon (or Qatar call you, naturally!) Flying or not, pay the bills, keep the wife happy and if you can afford to, kick the nuts off an aerobat and have some fun, life is for living not waiting.
Well said
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Old 17th Feb 2013, 01:49   #6007 (permalink)
 
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@ Disagreeable et al

I for one appreciate the time and effort you put into keeping us all informed with the latest in QA.

The information provided by Disagreeable has answered many of my questions and put my mind at ease knowing where I stand in the talent pool. It's not his fault if you don't like what he has to say. It's better you find out now before you pack up everything and make the move to a middle eastern country thinking everything in life will be perfect from here on. He is telling you what he can regarding the thread topic "Joining Qatar Airways - All you need to know"

Can someone confirm the companies requirements from the talent pool in 2013:

DEC - Ongoing??
DEFO - A few start dates here and there but main requirement for DEFOs will be late 2013??
NTSO/FTSO - No requirement in 2013??

Although things could, and do, change.
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Old 17th Feb 2013, 08:32   #6008 (permalink)
 
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I've only just joined here so pls forgive me. After the assessment I had a verbal confirmation I was in the talent pool. How to take things from here onwards? (Ntfo) What should be the next step?
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Old 17th Feb 2013, 19:55   #6009 (permalink)
 
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qatar dec housing

hallo folks,
could anyone answer these questions :
1) qatar is providing housing or giving money
to the dec hired in this period??
2)details about the medical insurance ??


tks


ps i know they are interviewing dec this time...don't know if they are hiring dec
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Old 18th Feb 2013, 03:08   #6010 (permalink)
 
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If you don't like palm tree's and sandy beaches here, you can try the palm tree's and sandy beaches in Fiji.

A few commanders from Doha and EK have gone their recently.

Not much pay though, A330 Check Captain- $8K AUD per month, no super or any other paid benefits and no sick leave or annual leave.
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Old 18th Feb 2013, 14:59   #6011 (permalink)
 
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Disagreeable

Disagreeable, please point to a single word or sentence from my short two sentence post that you think insults, harrasses or criticizes you as you imply from the highlighted excerpts below. Your response to my otherwise harmless post was unexpected and I can in all honesty say it was meant in jest but it's apparent comedy is not my strongest suit.
I am mostly a silent observer on these forums and I enjoy the read over putting my feelings and opinions forth. With that said, I will revert to my preferred method of participation or lack there of. Fly safe fellas and always keep the shiny side up.


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If you dont like what I say (and I admit its harsh at times), your entitled to that, but PilotofDoha and Datdude bare in mind Doha and Qatar Airways is a small place , so you better think twice about the insults and harrasment you give.
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. @datdude and PilotofDoha:
before you openly criticise...... Please read below.
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Old 18th Feb 2013, 15:31   #6012 (permalink)
 
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Having read and followed the posts of Disagreeable, I can't do anything else then agree with most things he says. However, I also find it impressive where and how he finds the time to be so active on this forum as a current member of the QR flightdeck team. I have lost contact with quite a bunch of guys that are so extremely busy out there that even a Skype call with the family has to be planned weeks in front.
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Old 18th Feb 2013, 19:19   #6013 (permalink)
 
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Someone who heard something about the (cadet) pilot programme between QR and CTC?
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 02:06   #6014 (permalink)
 
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Ah Mastema, I see you have moved from the DG & P forum to this one to vent again about the T & C's of FJ ( inaccurate as they are )

Looks like the rumor around the karva hut is correct.

Sour Grapes
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 04:58   #6015 (permalink)
 
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No sour grapes and no axe to grind, just stating facts from the IAC website.

I suspect that Jaba might be a mod nowadays because everytime FIJI is mentioned the post is immediately deleted.

Anyway, Inshallah

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Old 19th Feb 2013, 14:45   #6016 (permalink)
 
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Captain.weird,

Not sure about their contract with CTC, but seems like CTC have a contract with my roster lately.
It's all I been seeing the past few months..
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 16:38   #6017 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys, just to share one of my day with you. Something you could be interested in if you want to join. It's only my opinion of course, you need to make your own.

The other day I went to the office for my flight, I always arrive in the room 2 hours before the ETD. The official reporting time is 1h15min before. This time I couldn't find easily a parking spot and did two times the full cycle (not just in front of Hardees, all the way back to the Mc Donalds and return to the parking behind the Hardees, the loop inside and then the technical building...). Two times! Usually I always find in the first minutes. This time I found on the third attempt in front of Hardees and it took me exactly 35min more than usual (you start to feel them when you lose your margin) and I was quick.

Then I tried to maintain the only printer available and failed. When someone could have a look and couldn't manage as well, he declared her U/S. I had hope because it partially worked so I wasted more time than I usually would have. 20 minutes to get my documents printed and I didn't take a break.

Luckily we were parked in the stand A and were in the aircraft 45min before, on time, we didn't have to rush any procedure. Considering the time to go there through the immigration and the security (which is simplified to the maximum here) and find a bus; you have a good idea of the time we had to check about the notams, TAF, flight plan, etc..
And if we both came 1h15min before...


Is QR responsible about the traffic jam and lack of space available? No.
However they didn't take any measure to try to solve this problem, like in Asia where the companies organise a pick up for the pilots. They don't do it for the same reasons that they don't hire more people to print the flight plans. Saving at any cost as the British say... even if you lose money on this (in my opinion, when I see how many pilots leave every year).

Am I trying to start a union and saying that I shouldn't have to print my own flight plan? No I have no problem to do that, even changing the toner and charging the paper tray of the printer. If my contract says that it is my job as a pilot, then so be it.


I am just saying: sometimes I spend much more time with such kind of things than actually preparing my flight and I don't think it is safe. I don't think it should be like that in a five star airline.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 06:12   #6018 (permalink)
 
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GNCY

hello mate...

I think they are not investing to solve things like the parking because they still think NDIA is about to open...

However its a shame this you are telling about the printing of the documents and all... but I with I could have this problems and not the really serious and sometimes dangerous problems i have where im flying...

@Disagreeable...

Thank you for taking your time to write here and keep giving us updates, even if the news you give us are not always good...
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 14:30   #6019 (permalink)
 
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Sure, you are absolutely right. Printer problems is nothing compared to what you can see in some part of the world.
I flew myself in some of these places and I don't forget where do I come from.

I just want the company to keep this higher standard.
And I have, and will always have, the silly idea that saying the truth can improve the situation. If pilots agree about the fact that we should have the time to prepare our flight, and if one day they belong to the management of this company, maybe they will want to do something about it.

I am not saying that the ones in charge now don't do anything. I also want them to know that I am not the only one to think like that. I don't have the feeling this is a place where you can freely report a problem, the non-blaming policy looks good on the paper but... Internet seems to be a way.

Hell, if everybody always say that everything is fine (like in this interview after the first six months of flights), well without the ballbreakers like me the new office might be exactly the same.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 15:18   #6020 (permalink)
 
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Aptitude test

Does anybody have any information as to what is involved in the aptitude test on day 1 of assessment? How best to prepare or practice ?
I have lots of information about about the sim and tech exam and interview but nothing about the aptitude test.
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