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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 19th Feb 2013, 17:38
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Doha
Posts: 4
Hi guys, just to share one of my day with you. Something you could be interested in if you want to join. It's only my opinion of course, you need to make your own.

The other day I went to the office for my flight, I always arrive in the room 2 hours before the ETD. The official reporting time is 1h15min before. This time I couldn't find easily a parking spot and did two times the full cycle (not just in front of Hardees, all the way back to the Mc Donalds and return to the parking behind the Hardees, the loop inside and then the technical building...). Two times! Usually I always find in the first minutes. This time I found on the third attempt in front of Hardees and it took me exactly 35min more than usual (you start to feel them when you lose your margin) and I was quick.

Then I tried to maintain the only printer available and failed. When someone could have a look and couldn't manage as well, he declared her U/S. I had hope because it partially worked so I wasted more time than I usually would have. 20 minutes to get my documents printed and I didn't take a break.

Luckily we were parked in the stand A and were in the aircraft 45min before, on time, we didn't have to rush any procedure. Considering the time to go there through the immigration and the security (which is simplified to the maximum here) and find a bus; you have a good idea of the time we had to check about the notams, TAF, flight plan, etc..
And if we both came 1h15min before...


Is QR responsible about the traffic jam and lack of space available? No.
However they didn't take any measure to try to solve this problem, like in Asia where the companies organise a pick up for the pilots. They don't do it for the same reasons that they don't hire more people to print the flight plans. Saving at any cost as the British say... even if you lose money on this (in my opinion, when I see how many pilots leave every year).

Am I trying to start a union and saying that I shouldn't have to print my own flight plan? No I have no problem to do that, even changing the toner and charging the paper tray of the printer. If my contract says that it is my job as a pilot, then so be it.


I am just saying: sometimes I spend much more time with such kind of things than actually preparing my flight and I don't think it is safe. I don't think it should be like that in a five star airline.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 07:12
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Up in the Air
Posts: 143
GNCY

hello mate...

I think they are not investing to solve things like the parking because they still think NDIA is about to open...

However its a shame this you are telling about the printing of the documents and all... but I with I could have this problems and not the really serious and sometimes dangerous problems i have where im flying...

@Disagreeable...

Thank you for taking your time to write here and keep giving us updates, even if the news you give us are not always good...
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 15:30
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Doha
Posts: 4
Sure, you are absolutely right. Printer problems is nothing compared to what you can see in some part of the world.
I flew myself in some of these places and I don't forget where do I come from.

I just want the company to keep this higher standard.
And I have, and will always have, the silly idea that saying the truth can improve the situation. If pilots agree about the fact that we should have the time to prepare our flight, and if one day they belong to the management of this company, maybe they will want to do something about it.

I am not saying that the ones in charge now don't do anything. I also want them to know that I am not the only one to think like that. I don't have the feeling this is a place where you can freely report a problem, the non-blaming policy looks good on the paper but... Internet seems to be a way.

Hell, if everybody always say that everything is fine (like in this interview after the first six months of flights), well without the ballbreakers like me the new office might be exactly the same.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 16:18
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Earth
Posts: 44
Aptitude test

Does anybody have any information as to what is involved in the aptitude test on day 1 of assessment? How best to prepare or practice ?
I have lots of information about about the sim and tech exam and interview but nothing about the aptitude test.
Cheers
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 18:09
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: venus
Posts: 407
Gncy,

the 5 stars rating you mentioned is not related to cockpit crew service but to first and business class passenger service..only.!
Ek is not a five stars airline but they do provide transportation for crew....
( If I can compare QR and EK..)
But I do agree if Qr can not provide adequate parking for crew to come to work, then they have to provide transportation.

Last edited by salamalikum2; 20th Feb 2013 at 18:47.
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 08:11
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NZ
Posts: 49
What have the T's & C's of a contract job with Air Pacific in Fiji have to do with Joining Qatar Airways?
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 08:22
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: out of this world...
Posts: 215
Was thinking the same thing.. If u wanna moan like little kids (read professional pilots) then take it to pm's please...
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 10:22
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: venus
Posts: 407
Have heard that R.N. has resigned (again) from QR...
Rumor or reality..?
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 18:54
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Earth
Posts: 44
Aptitude tests

No answer from my last post so Il try again. Has anybody taken the aptitude tests for QR selection?
Are the results of the aptitude tests taken in isolation to decide if candidates get through to the next stage eg company interview, tech exam and sim?
Anybody who has been through the process recently who has any info - it would be appreciated.
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 21:55
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: 3rd planet
Age: 40
Posts: 107
there is only a written test 50 questions multiply choice pass that interview pass that sim thats how it was for me direct entry FO
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 21:56
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: 3rd planet
Age: 40
Posts: 107
Any word on DOJ for Non type Direct entry F/O for A320
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 23:59
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Two hundred baro
Posts: 159
Aptitude tests

The aptitude test has only just been introduced, for new joiners and existing pilots upgrading or being considered for training. I've not met anyone who has done it yet.
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 05:25
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Cuckoo land
Posts: 119
The new aptitude testing is being run by a UK company called Symbiotics LTD and will apply to all new joiners, fleet transfers, command upgrades and poeple joining the training dept.

It seems to consist of an 'on line' personality question test (about 250 of them) followed by a non technical panel interview and then a computer based assessment.

The interview is about how you got into flying/general career questions followed by questions based around a senario that you will have been provided with at a prior date.

The computer based tests are, verbal reasoning, maths, sequence and shape recognition and finally a pseudo flight.

It all takes about 4 hours.

Thats all info that I have and it may not be entirely accurate as it is all so new.

PL
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 09:29
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: uk
Posts: 276
Paper Lad what do you mean 'will apply to all new joiners' ? Does this apply also to all of us swimming in the pool? We will have to do this new assessment?
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 13:02
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Earth
Posts: 51
Have heard that R.N. has resigned (again) from QR...
Rumor or
reality..?
As far as I know, reality......
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 13:38
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: London
Age: 74
Posts: 129
Who is R.N.??
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 15:00
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: earth
Age: 55
Posts: 59
Maybe he is going to Abu Dhabi !
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 15:40
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: california
Age: 61
Posts: 303
Angry

Do these aptitude tests apply to experienced direct entry Captains?
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 16:26
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Cuckoo land
Posts: 119
As I said, "that's all the info I have".

No idea whether it will apply to swimmers. Rumour suggests that if you have swum for a period of one year, then yes it will. Only a rumour though.

PL
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Old 23rd Feb 2013, 17:38
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: venus
Posts: 407
Aptitude test for fleet transfer?
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