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Old 6th May 2016, 12:24
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Not too sure how marks on a paper helps them figure out who I am but fine.
Well, its the same for any interview, good grades usually (not always!) translate into good workers.

For my final interview I was asked to talk through my whole CV history, starting from college. Part of that was explaining the grades, why I got the scores I did, how I dealt with the courses/workload, what I learned etc.

Providing evidence stops any overt fibbing for this section!
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Old 6th May 2016, 17:15
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Scorpii, from applying to getting the final 'congrats' email, took about five months when we did it.

Can't tell you if it's been the same each year, but mine went like this a few years back...

26th Nov - Registered
2nd Dec - Online application submitted
14th Dec - Invite to assessment day 1
Jan 14th - Assessment day 1
Feb 22nd - Invite to final assessment
Mar 25th - Final assessment
Apr 15th - Reply!

After this, you then also have to be around for things like medicals (one with the CAA or NATS, one at BA) and a family day (although perhaps not compulsory? Can't remember! Worthwhile, though.)
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Old 6th May 2016, 18:58
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Originally Posted by MaydayMaydayMayday
...and a family day (although perhaps not compulsory? Can't remember! Worthwhile, though.)
The family day isn't compulsory; a few haven't been able to make it for one reason or another. But definitely agree that it's worthwhile (and a great opportunity for relatives to [attempt] to fly the jumbo sim ).
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Old 7th May 2016, 03:36
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Originally Posted by MaydayMaydayMayday
Scorpii, from applying to getting the final 'congrats' email, took about five months when we did it.

Can't tell you if it's been the same each year, but mine went like this a few years back...

26th Nov - Registered
2nd Dec - Online application submitted
14th Dec - Invite to assessment day 1
Jan 14th - Assessment day 1
Feb 22nd - Invite to final assessment
Mar 25th - Final assessment
Apr 15th - Reply!

After this, you then also have to be around for things like medicals (one with the CAA or NATS, one at BA) and a family day (although perhaps not compulsory? Can't remember! Worthwhile, though.)
Thanks for this! Very helpful. Think I'll just have to cross that bridge when it comes of potentially moving back to the UK for this process... Alternatively return flights every month or so! :|

Looking forward to it regardless!
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Old 10th May 2016, 08:18
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Originally Posted by scorpii
Hi all, been hanging around for quite some time but haven't posted yet. I have a couple of questions.

I have searched the thread, and likely my answer is buried somewhere in the 170+ pages, but can't find it!

1: Is there any indication from past years how long the interview and assessment process will be/has been in past years?
i.e. from the first assessments, through interviews (if successful), to the final stage you have to physically turn up to something.

I am currently living overseas, so would have to take time off work and book flights back to the UK, but ideally would keep this period away from work as short as possible (employer won't be too happy regardless!)

2: In past years, what has been the period between the programme opening for applications and candidates being called up for interviews etc?


Thanks all! Very much appreciate any help and input.
I applied last year and got quite far into the process before I got the chop. I don't recall exactly when I received invites, but I will do my best to hopefully give you a good indicator:
Early March: sent application off to FTE;
March 10th: received invite for fte assessment
March 26th: attended assessment
April 14th: received invite to attend BA assessments.
1st May: attended assessments

I failed after this point, but I know final interviews took place from the 5th to around the 14th (give or take 1 or 2 days). All those who attended the interviews found out their outcome on the 20th May. When compared to Mayday's selection process, you can see that everything took place in a much smaller window.
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Old 12th May 2016, 05:40
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Thanks a lot EZY, that's very helpful. Interesting to know that the timescales can vary quite a lot between applicants, and presumably FTOs as well.
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Old 14th May 2016, 15:17
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Hi Guys,

Does anyone know (roughly) the duration for which the application window is open?

I'm road-tripping for the 2nd and 3rd week of August - the dates the FPP is rumoured to re-open - and would hate to miss the application process due to being away!

Thanks.
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Old 14th May 2016, 23:18
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Was only two weeks last year.
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Old 19th Jun 2016, 17:28
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Hi. Can anyone who provided NARIC letter claryfie the matter of putting grades into application form? I send an email to NARIC with few questions and they told me "Unfortunately we are unable to provide a comparability statement for grades obtained in these qualifications"
So what about the required A-level BBC and 5xC in GCSE's?
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 20:52
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https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/Indiv...uments/SoC.pdf

If you look at the example of statement of comparability, you will see the statement, that your qualification/grades are equal to GCSE grade C or above (if they are obviously). I've done mine earlier this year and they state that all the grades/pass on my certificates are equivalent to GCSE grade c or above. Hope that helps.
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 08:07
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Thanks for reply. At least I will know if I meet the minimums but it looks like I will have to enter particular grades basing on reasults I achieved and partly guess if I should enter A*, A, B or C
I heard that above grades are approximately 100-90, 90-80, 80-70 and 70-60% of points respectively. So I think I will follow that as my exams are graded in percents.
Any clue if that's correct?
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 10:58
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No flying experience no money?
One thing I do know is that the average pilot bends over backwards to give someone a leg up. If you pitch up at your local flying club/ school and ask politely I'm sure you could sit in on briefings sit in the back and observe flying training or even get some handling.
Much more impressive at interview than ....(ah better not quote what I was going to).
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 08:45
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Rumours now that FPP is on hold - certainly won't open in August. Under review post Brexit. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 13:04
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Certainly doesn't seem strange to me if true, we have alienated ourselves, this will naturally have an impact on business, particularly to an industry as sensitive as the aviation industry.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 13:07
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Ryanair : not investing in the UK after Brexit
Easyjet :looking at the prospect of moving HQ out of UK after Brexit

How is it so surprising??
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 13:53
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Until BA come out with a statement of intent it remains speculation.

Bear in mind that although European operations might be under the spotlight, the long haul continues unabated.
Retirements continue a pace, and crew shortage another.
Population: 7% EU 93% the rest of the world

Far too many Cpl Jones' about........
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 15:21
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Originally Posted by parkfell
Until BA come out with a statement of intent it remains speculation.

Bear in mind that although European operations might be under the spotlight, the long haul continues unabated.
Retirements continue a pace, and crew shortage another.
Population: 7% EU 93% the rest of the world

Far too many Cpl Jones' about........
But the BA short haul feeds their long haul, how do you know it won't have an affect? No one can quite tell exactly what will and won't happen but based on news regarding other airlines post brexit - the rumour stated above certainly doesn't seem infathomable.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 15:51
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Northern Monkey the FPP was already under review with Alex Cruz allegedly expressing a desire to can it. That's got nothing to do with Brexit but everything to do with insurance premiums and the inability of the new recruits to fly the A321, the decision predated the vote by a few weeks.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 16:37
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And that is why a decision was taken to not allow "new recruits" to fly the BA A321s. The tailstrike at Glasgow last summer proved to be somewhat expensive.

Start off on less vulnerable airbus'. This is not a new consideration. When GBair were consumed by EZY, the issue of potential A321(ex GB fleet) tailstrikes was very much a live issue. Always easy to be wise after the event, but not always possible to prevent, even when THREAT & ERROR management is fully applied to all activities.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 16:48
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Parkfell don't shoot the messenger. One thing you should know about Alex Cruz is that he scrutinises every penny. In addition to that it's not particularly efficient to be paying short haul pilots who can't operate one of the fleet. That's what I believe this comes down to.
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