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Old 26th Mar 2012, 00:15   #1 (permalink)
 
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Post JetStar HK!

This will ruffle a few feathers up on the 9th floor!

Qantas, China Eastern to start Hong Kong budget airline - Totaltravel
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 02:44   #2 (permalink)
 
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hmmm I would think rolling around on the floor in fits of laughter would be more accurate. Qantas couldn't organise a chook raffle under current management. I would wait for the required approval from local govt. before I put too much of a spin on it, then wait to see where they can find some slots
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 04:05   #3 (permalink)
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Just make sure you come to HK with a decent package including housing allowance, education and medical, and don't whore yourselves for a little low cost shiny jet.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 04:41   #4 (permalink)
 
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Will the package be better than HKA? That would make things a bit more interesting.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 04:54   #5 (permalink)
 
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Bigger questions is if the package will be better than CX. Couldn't be worse, they wouldn't get anyone.

With Kingfisher sinking there will be a bunch of A330 pilots looking for work. Direct Entry FO on DEL Base?

Also some A380 orders going cheap. Might explain why the guys over in the CX Tech School have A380 Tech Manuals.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 05:05   #6 (permalink)
 
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Just make sure you come to HK with a decent package including housing allowance, education and medical, and don't whore yourselves for a little low cost shiny jet.
There are two chances of Jetstar offering a package like that - one is Buckley's and the other is sweet FA.

Take a look at the threads in the East Asia forum about the J* Japan offering.

Low cost carrier - only the staff are low cost. The aeroplanes, spare bits and the fuel cost as much as they do for any other airline.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 10:30   #7 (permalink)
 
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We are talking 3 A320! Wow, talk about expanding big here!
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 12:43   #8 (permalink)
 
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And expect to expend the fleet to 18 A320s by 2015... they aim high~!!
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 13:06   #9 (permalink)
 
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I guess this will be the start of Cathay Australia.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 13:08   #10 (permalink)
 
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Not exactly the next coming of Sir Freddie Laker!
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 13:56   #11 (permalink)
 
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Where do I apply, can't wait to get out of this CX crap
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 13:57   #12 (permalink)
 
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Will an A320 make the west coast of the Phillipines.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 13:58   #13 (permalink)
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CX could not crew a "Cathstralia" as every one is on Long Service Leave

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Old 26th Mar 2012, 16:38   #14 (permalink)
 
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Might explain why the guys over in the CX Tech School have A380 Tech Manuals.
Or that one of them is leaving to teach the A380 at another airline!
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 15:10   #15 (permalink)
 
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Cloud cuckoo

CX have already said they'll oppose any move by QF to do this on Place of Principle Business laws.
They'll win, and this plan, like the others before it from this inept Qantas management will go the way of the dinosaur.
I don't think the 9th floor has got much to worry about from Qantas management who said 777's were "old technology", thought flying to less places would attract more customers, and who decided that grounding the airline was positive for the brand.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 09:46   #16 (permalink)
 
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I don't think upstairs will be ruffled. They will be closely looking at what T&C Jetstar HK pilots will accept. They can then use this amount for any upcoming pay negotiations with Dragon (new D Scale?) or even Cathay. Plus with KFA close to going under, there will unfortunately be a bunch of pilots and cabin crew looking for work.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 11:36   #17 (permalink)
 
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Plus with KFA close to going under...
The Krishnamurti Foundation of America is going under? Perhaps The Korean Friendship Association? King Fahad Academy? Korean Football Association?

The Horror!
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 13:10   #18 (permalink)
 
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Well it's a few years away - if it gets off the ground at all - but I agree with Near Miss's comments. This could be the beginning of a cold wind of change blowing through HKG. The CX/Dragon package is still miles above what the rest of the world are having to accept nowadays, and will become unsustainable if a real LCC ever gets a foothold.

That's what has happened all over Europe, and it has ripped pilots T's + C's to shreds there.

You guys in CX have lived sheltered lives up to now.

I hope you have the balls to face down your Management, because I personally would prefer the salary benchmark to be as high as possible. CX high.
But I'm looking at your recent history, and I'm not too confident you can really hold it together when the chips are down.
And they will be.....
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 13:21   #19 (permalink)
 
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bigbrother: I would wait for the required approval from local govt. before I put too much of a spin on it....
WIKIPEDIA: CHINA EASTERN:-
China Eastern Airlines is China's second-largest carrier by passenger numbers and the world’s third-biggest carrier by market value.
The Chinese government has a majority ownership stake in China Eastern Airlines (61.64%).
China Eastern Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Hong Kong Approves Third Runway

Brrrrrr.....feel that wind of change a'blowin'......
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 13:35   #20 (permalink)
 
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too many weights, not enough speed work

Algol, why don't you get on Wikipedia and look up Air China, and get back to us
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