Is it my imagination or did I start reading a thread yesterday that dealt with RAF personnel being advised by the Station Commander of RAF Wittering not to wear uniform whilst in the environs of Peterborough for fear of provoking the locals to abusive behaviour?

If I'm not imagining things and an Orwellian punt into Winston Smith’s memory hole has not taken place, can someone tell me where the thread has been moved to?

Suspect its been pulled because it was starting to get very personal in its attacks on certain (named) individuals by some of PPRuNes armchair air marshal members!

Bit like the thread on the Victor crash in Canada.

If this is the dress code for RAF personnel in public in London then perhaps they should not be seen in public in uniform.

What ever happen to standards when a Corporal is in Desert Cam Gear and an Officer in flying overalls.



Even when I was a submariner I was never seen in public in working gear.

Bob

It would take a brave scroat to bully that Corporal......

Bob

Both authorised uniform - have a look at the majority of "welcome home" parades for the troops. All in dessies.

And as a sun-dodger yourself can I thank you for not wearing your uniform in public post tour - it was probably able to stand up, and even walk, on its own!!!

I think we'll find it is dress code as defined by MOD PR, as against the RAF. In our day Bob (is that pronounced 'per Black Adder' ? ), we dressed as ordered. I think that you'll find that this pair did the same.

As to: I only wish that I had ever attained anything like the standards that this pair set. Respect!

Bobhead,

I get the impression this was for publicity reasons, none the less, I'm more than happy to see these and any other members of the armed forces out and about in uniform, even if it may not match the dress standards of the dark ages of the cold war.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

- Cpl Hayden MC

Cyclone

Forgive the interruption, but if I recall correctly, 'AIDU' began the thread and it is possible has deleted it. You could try a PM to AIDU to ask. Since it is 'out of sight' to me as well I suspect that is the case?

Incidentally, I heard a rather disappointing 'ineffective' reply by Torpy on the matter on Radio4 lunchtime news on Friday.

Bobhead - is that chin real....?

I’d say that the more we see the likes of Flight Lieutenant Michelle Goodman DFC and Corporal David Hayden MC on the benighted streets of UK, wearing either dress or working uniform, the better. I have a growing sense that an increasingly visible uniformed Service presence may serve as a much needed reassurance to the civil population that the nation still possesses an honourable, selfless and professional force that can ultimately be called upon to deal with serious exigencies both at home as well as overseas. Moreover, perhaps such a growing presence is urgently required in light of what seems to be a decreasing presence of the Police Force on our streets and may even be catalytic in encouraging a reversal of this catastrophic phenomenon.

Bob or is it Richard ? I am sure they are wearing an authorised uniform as the Military is becoming more acutely aware of Twits criticising every move of our lads and lasses. I expect if you had/have been awarded some sort of honour, you would have been guided on appropriate dress for the occasion .

Regarding 'vanishing threads', I'll think you'll find that patience with some posters has now reached PLE....

That is a first rate photo of Flt Lt Goodman DFC and Cpl Hayden MC.

Good to see smart, practical uniforms being worn publicly. Just as it was good to see a smartly dressed TriStar pilot shopping in Waitrose last Friday in No.14 dress.

Congratulations to all those who received operational awards.

Bob,

They were probably in those particular uniforms for effect and to remind everyone of where we are and what we are doing so do me a favour and keep your pathetic views off pprune and get a life you k*ob!! These guys are out there doing it !!!!

I am sure that this was very much a PR exercise - even down to the PC chat given by the young lady to the news media - need more girls in RAF etc.

I applaud the bravery of these young men and woman and they deserve every plaudit they get.

One point, though, as far as I remember when I was a lad flying overalls were not classed as uniform but working dress

HF

I don't believe that they vary very much at all. They both look very smart but lets face it, they could be walking down the street looking like an absolute bag of $h1te and I for one wouldn't bat an eyelid. They have (along with the 182 recently decorated) and everyone else who has and are still serving more than proved themselves and as the majority of posters on this thread have so rightly stated, we are and should be hugely proud of them.

Bob,

Please put brain in gear before posting! Did you do any background on the image that you posted? Did it ever cross your mind that the personnel involved were briefed on the uniform to wear?

I hope the recruiters can use that photograph of Flt Lt Goodman DFC and Cpl Hayden MC. The dress, poise and self-confidence they portray would make any youngster think 'I want to be like them'.

Rise above the rest/Be the best/Be part of something all sounded a bit tame and wishful, and then along come two individuals who have done just that.

Makes me proud. Again.


ps Do aircrew get sewn in to their growbags?

The one thought that strikes me is that I'm 'only' in my mid 40s and that this pair would have been toddlers or operating at low altitude when I joined up. These aren't the old duffers that we're used to seeing wheeled out for the cameras - these are.. 'young people', experienced and at the top end of their game. And slightly off at a tangent, its the first time that I actually get the feeling that the baton (whatever thats worth) has been passed. The likes of Chugalug of course, will have experienced this many times. I also feel that the baton is in very good hands.

And looking at Michelle and thinking of being in good ha..

Sorry.

BobHead

I would suggest that those pictured and the others who have been decorated with them have raised the standards to a level that you (and I) can only hope to attain. The mode of dress that they are in is both smart and in keeping with the operational theatres in which they were serving when decorated. It puts things very much into perspective.

If the uniform is good enough to wear whilst being shot at and doing your job (and bloody well as these two have been recognised), then it's definitely good enough to wear back in your own country. Stop your whinging !!