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Old 27th Jul 2007, 20:37
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Question BA Pan @ LHR.

Was listening into the ground frequency at LHR tonite around 20.00hr local & a BA Airbus (BA719?) called up saying they'd been 'struck' by a 777 as it taxied out at T4 & that they needed assistance.

Anyone know what occured?

Hope it sounded worse than it really was.

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Old 28th Jul 2007, 00:18
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Well it appears a 777 bumped into an airbus.

Only an educated guess.

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"BA Pan @ LHR"

Yes, I am sure they declared a "PAN" for priority taxiing after being 'struck'.

Not nice at all for all crew involved, if that is indeed what happened, but the post title is a little misleading here....
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 06:50
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Wing-tip of B777 G-VIIK operating the BA293 to IAD struck the vertical stabilizer of a BA Airbus 319 arriving from ZRH. Happened during push-back, apparently. BA293 was cancelled last night, with passengers over-nighting at LHR and flying out today.

I don't know about it being 'not nice at all for all crew involved', but I can imagine it was a lot less 'nice' for all the passengers involved.
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 11:32
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Umm, but who do you think slept the best last night? On one hand you have the delayed and I would agree highly inconvenienced passengers and on the other the pilots. They probably spent the rest of the evening talking to the Plods, BAA, management and Heaven knows who else about what happened and woke this AM thinking about the possibility of a "no Tea, no biscuits'" interview?

I know whose shoes I would rather be in.
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I have some photo's from a friend who works in engineering. the reg of the airbus that was hit is: G-EUXH. something is lodged in the tailplane but can't quite make out what it is
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 13:22
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Yes, I am sure they declared a "PAN" for priority taxiing after being 'struck'.
Maybe they thought it was possible that a fuel tank could have been ruptured...I would say that was a PAN call?

Typical PPRuNe, somebody starts the thread and we get a page of criticism before anyone actually knows the facts and discusses any safety points that arise from something like this.
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Was it because the inbound couldn't park???as usual.

Pure speculation on my part.
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 14:06
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Question Comanche

but the post title is a little misleading here....

Comanche,The flight crew of the BA Airbus declared a 'Pan' on the radio to ATC,hence the title of my original post.

Not sure what's misleading about that??
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 16:37
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If the aircraft was struck from behind with the possibility of fuel lines and electrical cables connected to an operating APU, then a real risk of fire exists and a PAN call is entirely appropriate.

Nasty
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A321 had stopped on taxi-way as no parking aids were active on the stand.
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Yeah about 50 ft. above the runway we had to make a go-round, requested by ATC because fire trucks had to cross the runway... 10 mins later when taxiing we saw a massive amount of fire trucks at I believe terminal 4? Was that because of this?
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Old 28th Jul 2007, 19:26
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Is this why 27R has been in use all day for landings?
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Old 29th Jul 2007, 10:40
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No is the answer to that one
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Old 29th Jul 2007, 14:11
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Yeah about 50 ft. above the runway we had to make a go-round, requested by ATC
Now that would be very interesting to the French BEA in relation to the Armavia Airlines A320 accident near Sochi, Russia. Because, in the accident report (on Pprune somewhere), the aircraft crashed on a go-around with the BEA quoted as saying "The captain's psycho-emotional state was the result of the unexpected instruction to abort (the landing)...the crew did not expect any more "disturbances" after the aircraft had been cleared to land..the order to go around was completely unexpected and ran counter to the pilots' mental representation of the situation...this destabilised the already annoyed captain who reacted rapidly and it appears without developing any strategy.."

Clearly you had no such difficulties in conducting a low level go-around. Well done.
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So the inability of BA to have stand guidance available "on time" has finally cost them a shed load of money?I wonder if any questions will be asked in that area of operations.
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Old 29th Jul 2007, 17:34
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So the inability of BA to have stand guidance available "on time" has finally cost them a shed load of money?
Doesn't the ground crew pushing back the 777 have a responsibility to check that all is clear behind before they actually start?
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Old 29th Jul 2007, 20:54
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What about the wing walkers, countless times at LHR you see the wing walkers gazing around day dreaming and never once do they actually bother to look UP at the wings to see if they are going to hit anything.

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So the inability of BA to have stand guidance available "on time" has finally cost them a shed load of money?I wonder if any questions will be asked in that area of operations.

This posting now quoted on the BBC news - someone there reads pprune
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Old 31st Jul 2007, 10:14
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this just posted on Sky News.
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