CPL/FI courses in own aircraft??

[Blindside]

Evening All

I am about to buy a share in a PA-28. I know that I can do the IMC course in it and pay purely for the instructors time.

Is it possible to do the same for the CPL and FI courses?

cheers

[Noggin]

If it has a Public Transport C of A you can however, the aircraft will have to be placed on the schools approval and be inspected by the CAA.

If the aircraft is on a Private Cat then you cannot use a group owned aircraft for remunerated instruction.

[A and C]

Changing an aircraft from private to public transport C of A is not two much of a problem and could well be worth the expence provided the aircraft is in good order.

the disadvantage is that you cant do your own 50HR checks (but would you want the average PPl holder doing your maintenance unsupervised ?)
Putting it back to private C of A after you have finnished the CPL is a paperwork exercise.

[rolling circle]

Unfortunately, there's a little more to it than changing the aircraft CofA. You would have to find a FTO that would be prepared to include the aircraft in its fleet and the instructor would have to be included in the FTO's approval. You would have to follow the FTO's approved syllabus and the instructor would be subject to the FTO's approved standardisation programme. All in all, it's probably not worth it.

[BEagle]

Is it not also the case that one of the many joys of JAR/FCL is that CPL testing has to be on a 'complex' type? PA28R perhaps, but not plain vanilla PA28? So it would, in any case, be necessary to receive sufficient instruction on a complex type 4-seater with VP prop and retractable undercarriage if you were to be tested on it?

[ 19 August 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]

[cessnababe]

There is an AIC detailing the rules and exemptions the CAA has made regarding use of your own or group owned aircraft for remunerated flying training. As well as the point re CPL training requiring you to use a complex type (this is a minimum of 5 hours), the problem you would have with the instructor course is that you would have to do the spinning on a spinnable aeroplane, and I believe it is only the old Cherokee 140 that was spinnable, not the new Warriors and Archers. Hope this helps

[BEagle]

The AIC to which Dorothy refers is: www.ais.org.uk/Uk_aip/pdf/aic/4W009.pdf (http://www.ais.org.uk/Uk_aip/pdf/aic/4W009.pdf) .

[ 19 August 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]