EASA licence holder flying in the UK on an FAA certificate.

[rudestuff]

Let's say I've got an expired EASA R44 type rating, but a valid FAA certificate - can I fly an R44 in the UK using that? In the old days, yes - but I understand nowadays you need a licence verification. This would have been done when I converted my FAA CPL(H) to EASA - would this count?

[B2N2]

Without looking up any references I’m going to say no you can’t.
The FAA certificate is based on the foreign certificate and the limitations listed there on.

* OK I couldn’t help myself and I looked it up for you

FSIMS Document Viewer

5-599 Section E applies to you.
The above is the official FAA guidance to be used by FAA inspectors issuing the ‘based-on’ license and they’re supposed to brief you on it.

I’ve reread your original post and managed to confuse myself.
I assumed you wanted to fly a N-reg R44 using a FAA ‘based on’ certificate.
But that does not seem to be the case.

Confirm you want to use a stand-alone FAA CPL H to fly an N-reg R44.
You concurrently hold a EASA license with an expired R44 rating.
AFAIK for European citizens to fly an N-reg using FAA privileges they need to be ‘dual rated’. So FAA and EASA.
This was done several years ago to close the “N-reg loophole”.
So the answer would be no also.
But I’m standing by to be corrected as I haven’t kept up with EASA.

[Whopity]

This would have been done when I converted my FAA CPL(H) to EASA - would this count?

No, the verification process has a time limit.
The CAA has published an Information Notice IN–2017/029 with the requirements you must follow in order to exercise the privileges of an ICAO licence on a G Reg EASA aircraft.
Para 3.3 is interesting bearing in mind Article 17

Extra-territorial effect of the Order
17.—(1) Except where the context otherwise requires, the provisions of this Order, in so far as they apply (whether by express reference or otherwise)—
(a) to aircraft registered in the United Kingdom, apply to such aircraft wherever they may be;

[rudestuff]

I've got a full CPL(H) from both FAA and EASA, nothing 'based on' anything. If I want to fly G reg, I can't use my EASA licence because my your rating has expired. In the old days I could just fly on the privileges of my FAA certificate, but nowadays you have to have your foreign licence validated for private flights less than 28 days a year. Fair enough, that involves getting the FAA to verify the licence and doing a familiarisation flight with an EASA instructor. My question is: since I converted FAA to CAA, which involved sending them my FAA certificate and taking an LST with an EASA examiner, can I assume that I've met those requirements?

[Whopity]

My question is: since I converted FAA to CAA, which involved sending them my FAA certificate and taking an LST with an EASA examiner, can I assume that I've met those requirements?

To which the answer was:

No, the verification process has a time limit.

From the CAA website

The verification will remain valid for six months from the date of receipt by the UK CAA.

[rudestuff]

(I think) the 6 months is referring to the verification by the FAA to the CAA that the licence is valid, and the validation that the CAA then issue is without a time limit if below 28 days per year. Kind of like our version of a 61.75 which is a one time deal.

[Whopity]

They say the purpose of the verification is to ensure the foreign licence is still current, so a time limit would be in keeping with that. I gather this was dictated by the DfT rather than the CAA.

[rudestuff]

I just heard back from the CAA in record time. Any 28 day declaration made is valid until 8th April 2019, or implementation of the BASA, whichever comes first. And they'll accept PPL or above exam passes in lieu of an examiner sign-off. And it's free.

[faaalltheway]

Originally Posted by rudestuff

I just heard back from the CAA in record time. Any 28 day declaration made is valid until 8th April 2019, or implementation of the BASA, whichever comes first. And they'll accept PPL or above exam passes in lieu of an examiner sign-off. And it's free.

Hi rudestuff, would you be able to expand on this?
Have googled around re. BASA but not clear on the true outcomes for holders of FAA licences wanting to convert to EASA.

Also, are you saying a 28 day validation is actually valid for any period until 8th April 2019 (or BASA) regarding of its issue date, ie, possible longer than 28 days?

Thanks in advance

[rudestuff]

I should clarify. From the research I've done, there are three ways of flying in the UK on a foreign PPL:

All require a licence verification by the issuing authority - that's the bit that is valid for 6 months, in case you want to use it for other purposes, like conversion.

1: SRG2140: FAA certificate holders can 'self declare' - and fly until 8th April or BASA whichever comes first. Requires an examiner to endorse your knowledge of AIR LAW, but an EASA exam pass or other Part-FCL licence will be acceptable. (This is what I specifically enquired about) I believe it comes in the form of an email which you keep with your licence.

2: SRG2141: Other ICAO PPLs wanting to fly for less than 28 days per year - validation with no specific expiry date. Must complete acclimatisation flight with an EASA FI

3: SRG2139: Other ICAO PPLs wanting to fly for more than 28 days per year - validation issued for 1 year. Requires a skill test for PPL or PPL/IR. Extendable once provided you're on a course at an ATO. (Since it requires a skill test, it's probably easier (if you've got over 100 hours and don't need to IR validated) to pass Air Law and HPL and get a full EASA PPL issued.

All options require English level 4, either on your foreign licence or seperate FRTOL if you want to operate radio equipment. This might mean asking for the endorsement to go on the licence.