VFR flight plan for class C ATS route

[nick14]

Ok tearing my hair out.

The ANO states that for a VFR flight in class C airspace or ATS route you must file a flight plan. Further down it then states that for a VFR Flight on a class C ATS route you must not cause a flight plan to be communicated to ATC.

So which is it?

[nick14]

Section 2 page 16, point 29.

Section 2 page 12, point 19.

As far as I can see the latter states comply with rules 35,36 and 37, of which 35 is a flight plan. The former states in rule 29(4) that you shouldn't file a flightplan?

[Level Attitude]

General: A Flight Plan can be submitted for any flight whatsoever, so I
would be surprised if the ANO says anywhere that:
"a Flight Plan should not be submitted"

Section 2 page 16, point 29.

States a VFR Flight Plan must be submitted but cannot
for flights above FL195

Why not? Because

Section 2 page 12, point 19

Says that above FL195 any flight (even in VMC) must be flown
according to IFR (so point 29 does not apply) - Therefore, I assume,
an IFR Flight Plan will be required.

Basically a Flight Plan is mandatory for flight in Class C, the only question
being whether a VFR FP or an IFR FP is filed; and that a pilot must
not submit a VFR FP for where it is not permitted.

[nick14]

The commander of an aircraft shall not cause a flight plan to be communicated to the appropriate air traffic unit for a VFR flight in class C airspace above fl195 or along a Class C ATS route at any flight level unless authorised to do so by the CAA.

[nick14]

So what abut the advisory routes, I heard they were changing to Class C to align with EASA regs?

I have only flown IFR in class C so it's a mute point from that perspective.

[nick14]

Ah il just go IFR much easier.