Renewing JAR ATPL to EASA ATPL
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Renewing JAR ATPL to EASA ATPL
My UK issued JAR ATPL is shortly due for calendar renewal.
Looking at the CAA website form SRG 1102 only applies to UK issued licences, .
Does a JAR ATPL issued by the UK CAA count as a UK licence or does this refer to the old UK ATPL?
Form SRG 1104 would seem to be the form for conversion to a EASA licence, but is a renewal a conversion?
At the foot of the form are the guidance notes with regard to supporting documentation namely the ratings pages and medical. Surely the CAA have copies of medicals and valid ratings as each revalidation requires a form to be sent to them. However copies of these forms need to be certified by the head of training of an ATO.
As I am renewing my licence and am not connected with any ATO, how do I comply with this documentation certification?
Or am I missing something here?
Can anyone who has had their licence recently renewed, or anyone who can understand the current situation give me any guidance?
Looking at the CAA website form SRG 1102 only applies to UK issued licences, .
Does a JAR ATPL issued by the UK CAA count as a UK licence or does this refer to the old UK ATPL?
Form SRG 1104 would seem to be the form for conversion to a EASA licence, but is a renewal a conversion?
At the foot of the form are the guidance notes with regard to supporting documentation namely the ratings pages and medical. Surely the CAA have copies of medicals and valid ratings as each revalidation requires a form to be sent to them. However copies of these forms need to be certified by the head of training of an ATO.
As I am renewing my licence and am not connected with any ATO, how do I comply with this documentation certification?
Or am I missing something here?
Can anyone who has had their licence recently renewed, or anyone who can understand the current situation give me any guidance?
Your JAA ATPL is now deemed to be an EASA licence. In order to have it re-issued as an EASA licence you need to complete SRG 1104 and as you rightly say, you need to get the medical and ratings page certified by the Head of Training of an ATO/FTO.
Yes. they should have that information but I suspect the process of looking up scans of all your SRG1119 rating renewals is a slow process. Quite why they need to see the medical when they now issue it from their own computer is a mystery. I am told you should allow 3 months for this process!
Yes. they should have that information but I suspect the process of looking up scans of all your SRG1119 rating renewals is a slow process. Quite why they need to see the medical when they now issue it from their own computer is a mystery. I am told you should allow 3 months for this process!
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If you go there in person for same day service you donīt have to get anything certified.
Just show up with your ATPL, SRG1104 and most importantly your creditcard.
Hand in your paperwork before 12 and you should get your new EASA license by 1630. Arrive early to avoid disappointment.
Just show up with your ATPL, SRG1104 and most importantly your creditcard.
Hand in your paperwork before 12 and you should get your new EASA license by 1630. Arrive early to avoid disappointment.
Just show up with your ATPL, SRG1104 and most importantly your creditcard.Hand in your paperwork before 12 and you should get your new EASA license by 1630. Arrive early to avoid disappointment.
Just don't cut up the pages to fit them into the plastic wallet
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query on conversion with valid CPL
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I have 3 years left on my CAA CPL, but have heard conflicting requirements in relation to conversion to EASA. For example when I renew my IR this year will I be required to also change to EASA (with the corresponding cost)
Normally (as I live in Ireland) a local IAA examiner does the test, updates my license, fills in the CAA paperwork for me and I send all the paperwork to the CAA - no cost from CAA
But a instructor colleague of mine recently renewed his MEIR and was told by CAA that he would also have to change his valid JAA CPL to EASA at a cost of Ģ140 + the rating change despite having several years left on his CPL and of course complicated with the extended wait times that they are experiencing
So my question is ... are the CAA requesting us to change our license at the next transaction with them like a rating update
I have 3 years left on my CAA CPL, but have heard conflicting requirements in relation to conversion to EASA. For example when I renew my IR this year will I be required to also change to EASA (with the corresponding cost)
Normally (as I live in Ireland) a local IAA examiner does the test, updates my license, fills in the CAA paperwork for me and I send all the paperwork to the CAA - no cost from CAA
But a instructor colleague of mine recently renewed his MEIR and was told by CAA that he would also have to change his valid JAA CPL to EASA at a cost of Ģ140 + the rating change despite having several years left on his CPL and of course complicated with the extended wait times that they are experiencing
So my question is ... are the CAA requesting us to change our license at the next transaction with them like a rating update
Firstly, its not clear whether you have a UK CPL or a JAA CPL from the information you have given. Any licensing action that requires action by the CAA will require the holder of a JAA licence to have it reissued as an EASA licence. If the action is carried out by the Examiner then you don't need a new licence. If its a UK National licence, then it can stay as a UK licence but its validity on EASA aircraft will be limited to April 2014.
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Thanks Whopity
My license is JAA ... so as long as I dont need the CAA to update anything on my license (rating revalidations etc) I can hold out until my JAA CPL is up for renewal
Maybe in 3 years they will be a little better organised
My license is JAA ... so as long as I dont need the CAA to update anything on my license (rating revalidations etc) I can hold out until my JAA CPL is up for renewal
Maybe in 3 years they will be a little better organised
For example when I renew my IR this year
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Thanks .. Yes it will be a revalidation for the IR
So the consensus is ... No need to do anything this time around as long as I don't need to change anything on my license
Thanks all
So the consensus is ... No need to do anything this time around as long as I don't need to change anything on my license
Thanks all
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Hi folks,
Sorry to be a bore but not being totally on the flying scene of late I am uncertain as to what the process is for my circumstance.
My IR lapsed in 2011 and plan to renew it soon. My JAR CPL needs to be reissued by November this year so my question is: what's the cost (for licence admin) and will the examiner do the necessary paperwork following successful completion of IR renewal?
What a ballache eh?
Sorry to be a bore but not being totally on the flying scene of late I am uncertain as to what the process is for my circumstance.
My IR lapsed in 2011 and plan to renew it soon. My JAR CPL needs to be reissued by November this year so my question is: what's the cost (for licence admin) and will the examiner do the necessary paperwork following successful completion of IR renewal?
What a ballache eh?
and will the examiner do the necessary paperwork following successful completion of IR renewal?
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Thanks Whoopity,
So I guess I can get the HOT at the ATO where I renew the IR to sign the relevant bits for licence reissue and its Ģ140 fee?
So I guess I can get the HOT at the ATO where I renew the IR to sign the relevant bits for licence reissue and its Ģ140 fee?
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My IR lapsed in 2011 and plan to renew it soon
and will the examiner do the necessary paperwork following successful completion of IR renewal?
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Converting JAR ATPL issued in Greece to EASA
Dear All,
I have a question regarding the conversion of a Greek JAR ATPL to EASA. I had an offer to work with an English Charter Airline but they won't take me till i convert my ATPL from Greek JAA to EASA. Even though my current License says in the remarks section : "Member of EASA", still it is not enough to get me recruited as a pilot to fly an EASA registered Aircraft.
I contacted IAA asking about the conversion and they told me I have to apply online and send my application by post as well. The process will cost 600 Euros and will take up to 12 weeks.
Does anyone knows a faster and cheaper way" Maybe"?? I cannot wait 12 weeks as i will definitely lose the job offer.
Thank you in advance.
I have a question regarding the conversion of a Greek JAR ATPL to EASA. I had an offer to work with an English Charter Airline but they won't take me till i convert my ATPL from Greek JAA to EASA. Even though my current License says in the remarks section : "Member of EASA", still it is not enough to get me recruited as a pilot to fly an EASA registered Aircraft.
I contacted IAA asking about the conversion and they told me I have to apply online and send my application by post as well. The process will cost 600 Euros and will take up to 12 weeks.
Does anyone knows a faster and cheaper way" Maybe"?? I cannot wait 12 weeks as i will definitely lose the job offer.
Thank you in advance.