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At no point did I say a CRI (ME) could teach for an SE. You made that up.
A CRI may teach the holder of an NPPL SSEA to fly microlights and add the ML class to the NPPL. There is no solo element. The holder of an NPPL with ML may be trained by a CRI to add a SSEA. There is no solo element.
Nobody mentioned a CRI converting an NPPL to a JAA FCL license.
What you going to make up now to support your argument?
At no point did I say a CRI (ME) could teach for an SE. You made that up.
Did I..........?
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A CRI may teach for any rating that they hold on their license or have embedded rights to such as Micro-light if they have met the relevant experience requirements
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Nobody mentioned a CRI converting an NPPL to a JAA FCL license.
Did you not?............
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A CRI may also do training towards a class rating, for example someone who hold a ML rating and wishes to add a SEP or SSEA or vice versa.
Just remind me what licence you can add an SEP to if you are an NPPL with microlight rating?
Please read JAR-FCL, LASORS and the requirements including for example solo training that must be completed to get an SEP from an SSEA.
LOL, that is the most breathtaking example of cutting and pasting to make your point I have seen. I suggest reading and using all off what I wrote in context.
DFC seems to be trying to make a point about NPPL holders and adding an SEP with a CRI training - which of course you can't do, it would be an SSEA. All of which is a total red herring to the original question as nobody is trying to add an SEP to a NPPL from what I read of the debate.
The main thing a CRI can't do is if the student involved wanted a JAR-PPL from an NPPL he/she would have to engage the services of an FI, don't think anyone is disputing that.
Before I became an FI, I was a CRI and successfully trained numerous NPPL microlighters for their SSEA ratings and also a lot of people renewing SEP ratings on lifetime PPLs - all worked out fine.
I think the CRI is a great rating as long as people holding it and training with it know their limitations (it is only gained with minimum training) and are working in a supportive environment. I work with other CRIs now, and for example I know if they get a student for a rating that really needs a lot of work on core flying skills (landings for example), they might pass him/her over to an FI for a couple of hours brush up then continue on. All quite sensible and pragmatic.
I think the CRI is a great rating as long as people holding it and training with it know their limitations (it is only gained with minimum training) and are working in a supportive environment. I work with other CRIs now, and for example I know if they get a student for a rating that really needs a lot of work on core flying skills (landings for example), they might pass him/her over to an FI for a couple of hours brush up then continue on. All quite sensible and pragmatic.
Amen to that!
With regard to the SEP I was simply pointing out that someone was wrong to say;
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A CRI may also do training towards a class rating, for example someone who hold a ML rating and wishes to add a SEP
Once upon a time, in fact until the 30th June this year, on a UK NPPL the SEP class rating existed. It then became a requirement for all NPPL holders to go through a paperwork exercise and have SSEA with a rolling 2 year period.
There are many people out there who had NPPL licenses and had an SEP rating added to them after holding a Microlight rating and vice versa and all the ealry ones were issued by the NPPL Group/CAA with and SEP rating not an SSEA rating.
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