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Old 18th Mar 2015, 20:08
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Saratoga crash south of Sudbury

Update: Plane crash claims three lives | Sudbury Star
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Good Afternoon All:

From the Transportation Safety Board Log of Today's date.

C-G , a Piper PA-32RT-300T aircraft with three people on board departed Sudbury, Ontario on
an IFR flight to Winston Salem, North Carolina. Approximately 30 nm south of the Sudbury airport
at an altitude of 10000 feet, the pilot turned the aircraft back to Sudbury and advised ATC that the
flight was returning to land in Sudbury. This was the last radio communication from the pilot and no
reason was specified for the return. ATC cleared the aircraft to a lower altitude and observed it
turning and descending on radar. During the descent, the aircraft disappeared from radar at 8800
feet, then reappeared momentarily at 6300 feet after which there were no further radar contacts.
Moments later, there was a brief signal from the aircraft's ELT which ended abruptly. A search for
the aircraft was commenced that night and the aircraft was subsequently located the following
morning. All three people on board had received fatal injuries. The aircraft suffered an in-flight
breakup and debris was found over an area covering approximately 1.25 nm. A post crash fire
destroyed most of the main wreckage.
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Investigator says plane 'came apart in the air' before deadly crash | Ontario |
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It's a tragedy I did not expect to read about and that's the death of Sudbury Lawyer Leo Arseneau.

I never flew with him but knew him as a lawyer in Sudbury and it was our joint interest in flying
that got us together about a computer IFR simulator.

For me he was an incredible mentor whose form of training was to provide the most incredible challenges
and expect you deliver. He made you think and achieve. He will be missed by all those who knew him.

There are a lot of interesting tales I could write about but they are not aviation related and I'll leave them for another day.


Leo Arseneau once did a forced landing at night on a busy highway after an electrical failure. He had I believe more than 4,000 hours and lots of solid IFR experience.

Perhaps someone might like to research the weather at the time and place his saratoga broke up in flight.



Investigator says plane 'came apart in the air' before deadly crash

Leo Arseneau is pictured in this July 16, 2012 file photo taken in Sudbury, Ont. (Rita Poliakov/QMI Agency)


Mary Katherine Keown, QMI Agency

First posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015

SUDBURY, Ont. -- A plane that crashed is dense northern Ontario bush last week killing the three people on board "came apart in the air," an investigator said Monday.

Transportation Safety Board (TSB) of Canada investigator Don Enns said the plane appears to have fallen apart as it tried to return to the Sudbury airport.

"It's actually three accident sites -- there's the main site, with the engine, part of one of the wings and most of the tail section is located there, impacted on a rock face right beside the water," Enns said. "Then about a quarter-mile away there's the main section of the left-hand wing."

About a mile from that are the remains of the right wing.

The crash killed well-known Sudbury lawyer Leo Arseneau, 64, his wife Mary Lou, 65, and her caregiver, whose name has not been released.

The six-seater Piper aircraft Arseneau was flying went down in a densely forested area near the mouth of the French and Pickerel Rivers last Tuesday.

So far, investigators have determined he was flying southbound, heading to North Carolina, at about 10,000 feet before initiating a turn to the west. At that time, he notified air traffic controllers that he was returning to Sudbury.

"They responded and cleared him down to 5,000 feet, and asked if there was anything else they could do for him," Enns said.

The air traffic controllers received no response.

At that point, the plane began to descend "extremely rapidly," Enns said, adding he does not believe there was an explosion, but suspects the craft was "over-stressed," likely due to excessive speed.

"The question there is how and why," he said. "We know it came apart in the air; we don't know why yet. Part of figuring out why is determining exactly what the sequence of failure was."

While the details remain unknown, Enns said it was quick.

"Two of the people were actually thrown out of the airplane and whatever happened, happened extremely quickly. You can pretty much say this was immediate," he said.

A data recorder has not been recovered, however, investigators have found an emergency locator transmitter.

The insurance company will remove the plane parts by helicopter and the TSB will transport the remains to Toronto. The time frame for recovery is weather-dependent.

Once the plane has been relocated and reassembled, Enns said it will be easier to learn exactly what happened.

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