Canadian flight training? entry jobs?

[Hagop]

Hi,
I have contacted Harv's Air concerning the Pro Pilot Course covering PPL,Night,ME,IR,CPL. I've been told that students who complete the Pro Pilot course will be issued with a work permit for the length of time they've been a student, and that there are a lot of GA job opportunities for international students. What are the REAL job opportunities for 200 hour Canadian CPL/IR holders with a work permit validity of 10-12 months?Instructing,Regional airlines...? What is the range of starting salaries? Currently, 200 hour jobs in the Middle East are minimal and airlines are hiring though their cadet programs... are things any better up in the North?
Cheers!
EDIT: Does anyone have a recent experience with Saint Hubert Flying School/Ottawa Aviation Services?

[clunckdriver]

Check your PMs.

[evansb]

200 hours? None.

[Needtofly]

They are out there but you will be competing with hundreds if not thousands of other 200 hour pilots.

[surveytheworld]

...competing with hundreds of other 200 hour pilots that have the right to work in Canada for longer than 10-12 months, I might add. You're at a disadvantage from the outset, since a company wouldn't want to invest money and time in training you, knowing that you'd be leaving in less than a year. (And some friendly advice - do not offer to pay for your training; that's simply "not done" in this part of the world and will get your resume sent directly to the garbage bin.)

Your best bet may be doing an instructor rating, and then instructing at that same school (this is how many instructors get their first jobs) - but of course, they wouldn't be able to guarantee up front that they'd hire you, so it would be a gamble.

[250hrsand counting]

@HAGOP

Option 1
Get your training done including an instructors rating.
You might get an offer if you finish everything at the same school
Get a work permit,Teach, Fly and just wait till you get your first gig

Option 2
Get your training done and apply outside Canada
You might just get lucky to find a Company willing to hire overseas.
Note: Most company overseas might require you to sign a bond
As long as you get an offer of employment go for it but if not stick to Option1

Saint Hubert is a good place to fly. the likes of saint Hubert flying school, Cargair and Air Richelieu are all on the aeroport road.

Finally any path you choose to take remember be patient, get the experience first and all other things will fall in place. There is a lot of competition in Canada esp with low time pilots so my advise is get your training done with either option and focus all your energy on one thing.....to be the best commercial pilot you can be

[Hagop]

Thanks for the info,

Does it really matter if you go through the modular or integrated route in Canada? My knowledge is bounded to EASA training where the difference is huge. I've been told that in Canada it doesn't make sense to go through the integrated ATPL route to write the exams at 200 hours since it will stay "frozen" until you log the 1500 and you won't have any advantage over someone who has gone through the modular route.

But I've recently received an email from a flight school in Montreal stating that if a student goes down the modular route and doesn't hold a frozen ATPL, he won't be able to get into the airlines whatsoever before logging in 1500 hours, whereas holding a frozen ATPL will make him eligible for a FO position with an airline even at 200 hours.

At Harv's Air, the difference between the modular and the integrated route is roughly around 7,000-10,000$. Do you think it's worth it? or saving the money would be a wiser choice?

Cheers!

[Big Pistons Forever]

Originally Posted by Hagop

But I've recently received an email from a flight school in Montreal stating that if a student goes down the modular route and doesn't hold a frozen ATPL, he won't be able to get into the airlines whatsoever before logging in 1500 hours, whereas holding a frozen ATPL will make him eligible for a FO position with an airline even at 200 hours.

Where is the double face palm insert when you really need it.....

[Hagop]

Hi Big Pistons Forever,

This is what the flight school has said and not my own thoughts and beliefs. I was just asking for the validation of this information because I'm sure that things are a bit different in Canada.

Thanks anyways.

[iMac0960]

You could theoretically work for an Airline in Canada with 250hrs TT, you just have to write another exam to be able to add Type Ratings to your CPL. That being said, good luck finding an airline or regional carrier to hire you at 250hrs. The integrated ATPL is still new in Canada and doesn't really give you an edge over anyone with more hours than you.

[justagigolo77]

This is what the flight school has said and not my own thoughts and beliefs. I was just asking for the validation of this information because I'm sure that things are a bit different in Canada.

You mean a flight school that would have big financial gains by having you do your training there, would tell you something that stretches the truth to get that money? I've never heard of such a Machiavellian Scheme! Wow!