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Old 13th Sep 2002, 16:52
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Post More good reads...

Non-fiction you wanted? Let's see.... from my bookshelves:

Flight of the Mew Gull- Alex Henshaw
Slide Rule- Nevil Shute
Spitfire- Jeffrey Quill
Fighter Test Pilot/Flying to the Limit (or his latest book, can't remember the title)- Roland Beamont
The Dangerous Skies- A.E. Clouston
The Spirit of St. Louis- Charles Lindbergh
Voyager- Rutan and Yeager
Yeager- Chuck Yeager and Leo Janos

Early ones from Richard Bach are great, and I'm still looking for other books by Don McVicar. I got 'Mosquito Racer' cheap at Duxford two years ago but I still regret not buying the other titles by him that were available there. Can't seem to find them anywhere now, any ideas anybody?

Indeed 'Cannibal queen' is very good, but although they are fiction you should also read 'Flight of the Intruder' and 'The Intruders' from Stephen Coonts. They are based on his own experiences and especially 'Intruders' contains many details based on true experiences which make excellent reading. Flight of the Intruder is more a Vietnam story, but don't get me wrong: IMHO it's one of the best ones I've read!

That should keep you reading for a while, let us know when you finished these
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Old 21st Nov 2002, 17:40
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Cub Stories

The best one is "Flight of Passage" by Rinker Buck.
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Treadigraph and Shaggy Sheep Driver: you must have been looking over my shoulder at the most-thumbed books on my shelves! To your recommendations I'd add Cecil Lewis's 'Sagittarius Rising' (a Great War air fighting classic), Jack Parham's 'Flying for Fun' (see Private Flying Forum) and David Garnett's 'A Rabbit in the Air' (both capturing the spirit of pre-war light aviation), Harald Penrose's 'Adventure with Fate' and 'Winkle' Brown's 'Wings on my Sleeve' (test-flying memoirs), Bert Stiles's 'Serenade to the Big Bird' (a poignant account by a Flying Fortress crewman), and Col. Jack Broughton's 'Thud Ridge' (F-105 ops over Hanoi), and something by St. Exupery, of course. Fiction? Ernie Gann, Gavin Lyall, Brian Lecomber, John Templeton-Smith won't fail you. And don't overlook anthologies -- they can pave the way to further enjoyment.
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Old 22nd Nov 2002, 05:41
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Spot on, Jhieminga. "Slide Rule" - Nevil Shute Norway. A great read!

You mention Australia, Double Asymmetric? If you are in Australia and interested in Ozzie (and PNG) aviation history:

"A Thousand Skies" - Chilla Kingsford Smith story
"Wings of Gold" - Jim Sinclair (Pre War PNG)
"Sepik Pilot" - Jim Sinclair (Bobby Gibbes story)
"Balus" I, II & III - Jim Sincalir (Post War PNG)

"Qantas Rising" by Hudson Fysh is interesting. Was at Longreach last weekend for the first (last, and only) Qantas B747-200 Classic VH-EBQ landing and noticed the Qantas Founders Museum has a good collection of aviation books for sale.
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http://www.flyer.co.uk/books.php

interesting set of links to flying books
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Old 22nd Nov 2002, 16:19
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You guy's gotta try 'Dancing in the Skys' by 'Tony' Jonsson. The only Icelander to fly with the RAF in WWII. Great story.
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Old 22nd Nov 2002, 22:32
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'Beyond The Blue Horizon'

Written by Alexander Frater, an Australian, who had a 'thing' for flying boats and in the '70s or 80's repeated the journey from London to Sydney, going via as many of the old flying boat stations as possible and describing how life would have been during the flying boat era. I found it fascinating and hard to put down.

Out of print now but you should be able to get a copy here:

http://www.abebooks.com/
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'Phantom over Vietnam' by John Trotti. A Marine F4 pilot, Trotti's book is similar in style to Prest's, except with the added edge of combat ops. Includes his description of trying to hit a ground target on a bomb run with his eyes shut after getting blase about AAA coming past his canopy every day for the last six months. The best book I have read on the subject of flying fast-jets in combat.

'A Lonely Kind of War' by Marshall Harrison, is a fixed-wing version of 'Chickenhawk', and comprises the Vietnam war diaries of an OV10 Bronco pilot. Spent all of his time wazzing around 'on the deck' doing armed FAC sorties, as well as being rocketed nearly every night in his bed whilst deployed in the field. An excellent read.

I would also second the recommendation of Stephen Coonts' two 'Intruder' novels. Fiction they may be, but having been written by an A6 pilot who was actually 'there' they are as gripping and realistic to read as any collection of real flying war stories. You're in an A6 cockpit on a carrier at night in crap weather hooked onto the catapult. Cat fires, pressed back in the seat, shooting along the deck, both engine fire warning captions come on... Brilliant.

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Old 25th Nov 2002, 12:19
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One book which still stays in my memory is 'Lonely Warrior', the story of Belgian fighter Pilot Jean Offenberg, who escaped from his overrun country to fly with 609 Sqn during the Battle of Britain. A very moving account. Not sure whether it's still in print though.
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Old 25th Nov 2002, 13:35
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Second the Cootz "Intruder" novels...they are more realistic than real and technically and tactically accurate.

If you like one or both of these try the old warhorse "Bridges at Toko Ri"
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Old 26th Nov 2002, 11:59
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I really enjoyed for a floatplane yarn:


True North: Exploring the Great Canadian Wilderness by Bush Plane
By George Erickson

ISBN 0-88762-103-1

Also North Star on my shoulder by Bob Buck about early airline flying in the US

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Old 8th Dec 2002, 12:28
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Has anyone mentioned "North to the Orient" by Anne Morrow Lindbergh? apologies if so, missed it on brief scroll through the thread.

(Almost) everything by St Exupery (only one brief mention above?) should be on the essential reading list. You asked for non fiction, but St Ex's novels are informed by his own experiences.

Additional war memoirs: Pierre Clostermann's "The Big Show" is available in translation, although for the expanded version, "Le Grand Cirque 2000" you need to read French . See also the memoirs by Hugh Dundas and Neville Duke.

As I never fail to observe when this thread comes up: Bach is a load of old ********. New age pseudo-spiritual meanderings, bah, humbug. I could get higher from smoking teabags. Pass the bong.
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Let's just say that Bach is an 'aquired taste'

(and I'm not talking about Johann Sebastian....)

'A Gift of Wings' is a collection of short stories by him and when taken in moderation might just keep FNG from revisiting his breakfast, but for others: there are a quite a few nice stories in there. If one survives that, one might very carefully try 'Biplane', 'Nothing by chance' or 'Stranger to the ground'. Only move beyond those titles after taking the advanced course in Tarot, having both palms read and accompanied by no less than a CPL licensed spiritual guide.

That's all for this week's short introductory course on Bach .
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Old 9th Dec 2002, 20:51
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Oi FNG! I like Bach
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Tracking down out of print books

It can be a pain looking for out of print books, even on the internet.

I just bought a uncirculated mint second hand copy of Jack Broughton's book "Going Downtown" which goes over some of he ops he went on and his eventual court martial. It was a 1st edition and cost me less than buying it new!

I bought my copy through ABEBOOKS -

http://www.abebooks.com/

they have a lot of books of all types both fiction and non-fiction and is certainly worth a look.
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Old 18th Dec 2002, 22:25
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Here are some more titles that I don't believe anyone has mentioned so far. I've listed the boooks alphabetically and according to my own subjective rating system [**** = excellent, *** = very good, **= good]:

****

(1) Paul M. Gahlinger, The Cockpit: A Flight of Escape and Discovery (2000) [from California to Egypt in a Cessna Cardinal]
(2) Mariana Gosnell, Zero Three Bravo: Solo Across America in a Small Plane (1993) [summer flying in an old Luscombe]
(3) Robert S. Grant, Bush Flying: The Romance of the North (1995) [bush flying in Canada]
(4) Frank Kingston Smith, Flights of Fancy (1960) [adventures in a Piper Comanche]
(5) Frank Kingston Smith, Weekend Wings: the Complete Adventures of the Original Weekend Pilot (1982) [full circle from a Cessna 140 to a Piper Cherokee 140]

***

(1) Donald Fonger, Challenging the Skies (1988) [around the world in a Twin Comanche]
(2) Hugh Godefroy, Lucky 13 (1987) [Spitfire pilot in WW2]
(3) Laurence Gonzales, One Zero Charlie: Adventures in Grass Roots Aviation (1992) [aerobatics and weekend flying in Illinois]
(4) John Kilbracken, Bring Back my Stringbag (1979) [Swordfish pilot in WW2]
(5) Frank Kingston Smith, Weekend Pilot (1957) [learning to fly in a Cessna 140]
(6) Frank Kingston Smith, I’d Rather be Flying (1962) [learning to fly instruments and learning to fly a Piper Apache]
(7) Dave McIntosh, Terror in the Starboard Seat (1980) [Mosquito navigator in WW2]

**

(1) Justin de Goutiere, The Pathless Way (1969) [float flying in British Columbia]
(2) Harmon Helmericks, The Last of the Bush Pilots (1969) [bush flying in Alaska]
(3) Harmon Helmericks, The Flight of the Arctic Tern (1952) [bush flying in Alaska]
(4) Roy Mason, Ice Runway (1984) [recreational flying in British Columbia]
(5) Jack Schofield, Flights of a Coast Dog: A Pilot’s Log (1999) [bush flying in British Columbia]
(6) Sheila Scott, I Must Fly (1968) [around the world in a Piper Comanche]
(7) Sheila Scott, On Top of the World (1973) [further adventures in a Piper Aztec]

Happy reading!

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Here's a haphazard choice from my shelves, most of which I cannot recall having seen listed previously:

James Gilbert - The World's Worst Aircraft (one of my favourites)
Jennifer Murray - Now Solo (about her rtw epic in a Robinson R44)
Dirk Bogarde - Cleared for Take-Off
Laddie Lucas - Out of The Blue (The role of luck in air warfare 1917-1966
A.L. Isenhauer - The Flying Carpetbagger (about Robert Vesco)
Charles Berlitz - The Bermuda Triangle
Judy Lomax - Flying for the Fatherland (she also wrote one on Sheila Scott)
Christopher Robbins - Air America
P.R. Reid - Winged Diplomat (The life story of Air Cdre Freddie West)
Gordon Baxter - Bax Seat
Neville Duke - Test Pilot
Ulrich Steinhilper - Spitfire on my Tail (with Peter Osborne)
Peter Townsend - Duel of Eagles (plus of course Time and Chance)
Harry Combs - Kill Devil Hill
Eric Mueller & Annette Carson - Flight Unlimited (mine is signed by Eric - Farnborough 6.9.84)
Louise Sacchi - Ocean Flying
Mary S. Lovell - Straight on till Morning
Annie Bullen & Brian Rivas - John Derry (hope you always pay a visit to the memorial to him in the garden at Cannes Airport...)
Carel Birkby - Dancing the Skies (stories behind the aircraft at the SAAF museum at Saxonwold)
Julian C. Temple - Wings Over Woodley (the story of Miles Aircraft)
Richard Serjeant - Private Flying for Business and Pleasure (mine is signed 23 Nov 1962!)
Bramson & Birch - The Tiger Moth Story
Jean Batten - Alone in the Sky (signed 6.8.79 - at Cranfield)
Bob Price - Life on the Airliners
Arthur Pearcy - The Dakota (mine is obviously from Arthur's own library because it is signed by all manner of people, and also contains handwritten addenda on schoolbook paper)
Jeffrey Quill - Spitfire
Desmond Scott - Typhoon Pilot
AVM Donald Bennett - Pathfinder
Martin Caidin - Fork-Tailed Devil: The P38
Len Deighton - Bomber (also Fighter)
John Sweetman - The Dambusters Raid
Alex Henshaw - Sigh for a Merlin
Peter G. Campbell - Tales of the Fifties (and More Tails, etc)
Beryl Markham - West With the Night (and Splendid Outcast)
and in that vein I must add:
Karen Blixen - Out of Africa

and for the sheer pleasure of having it to thumb through - a pristine copy of The Air Pilot of 1934, or a bound copy of 6 months of Flight International 1939, much translated into German....

What I am missing (although it's so small it could be sandwiched somewhere) is a signed copy of Fredrick Forsyth's The Shepherd which, although fiction, possibly is not.......

and I must mention and recommend the facsimile edition of Ferry Pilots Notes, issued to the pilots of the A.T.A. (bless them).

Happy Reading!
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atb1943,

You're right, "Bax Seat" is very good. He also published a sequel, "More Bax Seat: New Logs of a Pasture Pilot", but it is difficult to find.

I hope that Lane Wallace, Bax's heir at Flying magazine, will eventually publish an edited collection of her columns. Please let it be hardbound!

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P.S. A list of aviation books appears at: www.inl.net/hp/richieb/books_by_author.html
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Old 19th Dec 2002, 16:07
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ATB1943 remind me of another: Annette Carson's "Flight Fantastic - the Illustrated History of Aerobatics".

A great read full of wonderful anecdotes about - and from - the pioneers and exponents of the sport. 15 years or so since publication; with the advances in the aircraft and manouvers plus the newer competitions, an updated edition is called for!
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Treadigraph: You're so right about an updated version of 'Flight Fantastic' being long overdue. If you're out there Annette, how about it? I was lucky enough to get my copy signed by many aerobatics 'greats' at the 1986 WAC at South Cerney, but have pulled it from the shelf with such regularity that it's looking decidedly tatty now. Alway envied Tony Bianchi his original of Lynn Williams' cover painting. I had to settle for a print, but it's wonderful nonetheless.

atb1943: My shelves reflect your random selection almost volume for volume, and I can still find my (unsigned) copy of 'The Shepherd'!
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