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Old 1st Dec 2016, 18:00
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Captain Val Moore

Would anyone know of a photo that shows Captain Val Moore, or know of a place where I could find a photo of him? The information I have about the gentleman is as follows:
Full name is Valentine Stuart Moore, DSO, DFC, DFM (NZ 404924). He flew with 57 Squadron, 83 Squadron and with 692 Squadron on Mosquitos. He joined BOAC towards the end of the War and flew Haltons, Yorks, Hermes, Argonauts, Comet IVs and VC10s. He then moved to Nigeria Airways to fly its single VC10 and was operating 5N-ABD on its final, fateful flight in November 1969. He was born in New Zealand, most likely in 1913 as he was 56 at the time of the VC10's crash.
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I seem to recall that there is a photo of him in a group shot in Pathfinder by Don Bennett.

At the time Moore was flying with BSAA

Unfortunately, I don't have the book to hand.

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I'd been labouring under the misapprehension that the VC-10 had never had a fatality.
So thanks for posting.
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Type: Silhouette image of generic VC10 model; specific model in this crash may look slightly different
Vickers VC-10-1154
Operator: East African Airways Corp. - EAAC
Registration: 5X-UVA
C/n / msn: 881
First flight: 1966
Total airframe hrs: 18586
Engines: 4 Rolls-Royce Conway 550
Crew: Fatalities: 8 / Occupants: 11
Passengers: Fatalities: 35 / Occupants: 96
Total: Fatalities: 43 / Occupants: 107
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Old-Duffer, thanks for that tip, I'll see if can find that book.

AtomKraft, there were two fatal crashes, 5N-ABD was one and 5X-UVA the other. For more see my site: Incidents and Accidents

I've also posted this question on the Wings over New Zealand forum and have gotten some good leads there as well. Thanks all!
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A bit of drift, but - when 5X-UVA initiated EAA's VC10 services, the first flight was a promotional trip billed as "10 VC's on a VC10", carrying 10 VC holders, one of whom had been gassed in WW1 and probably shouldn't have been flying anyway. Apparently a meeting with Idi Amin was involved....
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I don't mind VC10 related thread drift! Was that on the first commercial flight on 13th October 1966?
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I suppose it was - details came from someone who worked for EAA at the time, they still have autographs of the 10 VCs concerned.
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Pathfinder by AVM Bennett

I have a paperback copy of this book. There are only a few photos but none with Moore.
However he is listed in the Appendix as:
No 1409 (Met) Flight
Flt-Lt V.S.Moore Appointed 28.11.43
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CLANG!!!

It wasn't Val Moore but Brian McMillan - my mistake.

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Originally Posted by gruntie
I suppose it was - details came from someone who worked for EAA at the time, they still have autographs of the 10 VCs concerned.
Any chance of a scan or photo? It's the first I've heard of this and I would love to know more about it. I wonder if any of the 10 VCs that were on that flight were also linked to a named RAF VC10.

Old-Duffer & Mike, thanks for the added info!
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Any chance of a scan or photo? It's the first I've heard of this and I would love to know more about it. I wonder if any of the 10 VCs that were on that flight were also linked to a named RAF VC10.
As far as I can decipher the names were:

Lieutenant Colonel Tom Edwin Adlam
Rev Arthur Herbert Procter
Rear Admiral Sir Anthony Cecil Capel Miers
Sgt Norman Cyril Jackson
Colonel Donald John Dean
Capt Philip John ("Pip") Gardner
Flt Lt William Reid
Captain Richard Wallace Annand
2nd Lt William Allison White
Lieutenant Colonel Victor Buller Turner

For more info you'd better PM me your private email address, I'll pass it on.
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Jelle:
I acquired a paperback copy of Don Bennett's "Pathfinder" for my 10 Sqn work and I don't see a Moore mentioned by name in any of the few photos in it. However, a Flt Lt V S Moore is listed in an annex as CO of 1409 (Met) flight from 28 November 1943 - a brief appointment as another chap took over on 13 January 1944. 1409 flew Mosquitoes.

And if the names, above, of the VC holders are correct, none were named on the 10 Sqn aircraft. The names chosen in 1968 were from a list of VCs who had died in action.

Seasons greetings, Ian.
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