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Old 11th Mar 2024, 06:41
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LATAM upset SYD-AKL Mon 11 Mar

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I am amazed that despite all the requests, pax still don't leave seat belts loosely fastened. Would avoid all these unnecessary injuries.
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A few articles are attributing the injuries to a “technical issue causing a strong movement” rather than turbulence. Will be interesting to see as some facts are released.
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Jokat said there was no turbulence after the incident and once the plane landed the pilot came to the back of the plane in “shock”.

“I asked ‘what happened?’ and he said ‘my gauges just blanked out, I lost all of my ability to fly the plane’.”
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Not sure of any truth, but rumor going around in a South American pilot group, is that the entire aircraft electrical system (including primary instruments, flight computers, lights, pax IFE, etc) went out for about 45 seconds and when systems came back online, there was a 'large, rapid, uncommanded' movement of the vertical stab.
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Faulty RPDU?

The FAA had a AD out around a decade ago from memory around generator failures. Be interested to see if the RAT was deployed

Might be another one for the FAA to look at. They might need to hire some more staff soon due to workload.
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 08:39
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Just another crap Boeing product. Very similar to a MAS 777 off the West Australian coast in 2005. That one was due to faulty software in the FT-ADIRU.
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Just another crap Boeing product.
That really stands out when you look at the A350 program. Sure, Airbus didn’t get everything right, few issues about, but they did a damn good job and I’ve not seen such a flawless entry into service for a new type. It’s a brilliant machine also, crew and passenger favourite.

777X is the next problem child on the horizon. I don’t even need to check the crystal ball to tell me that is going to become a problem also.
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…there was a 'large, rapid, uncommanded' movement of the vertical stab.
More likely rapid elevator movement given passengers & cc encounters with the cabin ceiling.
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 09:10
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Just another crap Boeing product. Very similar to a MAS 777 off the West Australian coast in 2005. That one was due to faulty software in the FT-ADIRU.
If the uncommanded rudder inputs are right, the tongue in cheek comment would be if it was an Airbus the the tail would have fallen off!
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Or they didn’t recognise, confirm and breathe.
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 09:57
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Just another crap Boeing product
QF72 was an A330. Fortunately, events like that are rare.

The cause of the LATAM incident remains unknown at this stage.
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 10:07
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Originally Posted by TWT
QF72 was an A330. Fortunately, events like that are rare.

The cause of the LATAM incident remains unknown at this stage.
Different incident. Locations were similar but Malaysian had an upset too. ATSB investigation number 200503722
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 10:15
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I'm very much aware of that DirectAnywhere . The comment stated that it was just another crap Boeing product.
I merely pointed out that Airbus products are not immune to problems.
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So, no battery powered standby AHRS? Yikes! That’s what you’d call a catastrophe. But, but, but wait… everything resolved itself after a few seconds. Phew.. crisis averted, well other than the 50 pax jammed onto the ceiling enjoying their few seconds of zero G astronaut time.

All I’m saying is there’s more than meets the eye here.. not blaming hardware, not blaming crew.. let’s see what the FDR and CVR say.
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I am amazed that despite all the requests, pax still don't leave seat belts loosely fastened. Would avoid all these unnecessary injuries.
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Originally Posted by logansi
Not sure of any truth, but rumor going around in a South American pilot group, is that the entire aircraft electrical system (including primary instruments, flight computers, lights, pax IFE, etc) went out for about 45 seconds and when systems came back online, there was a 'large, rapid, uncommanded' movement of the vertical stab.
Sounds like full system restart..
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 16:52
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Am I the only one old enough to be thinking about the Captain turning around and yelling: CHECK ESSENTIAL!. ?
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I am amazed that despite all the requests, pax still don't leave seat belts loosely fastened. Would avoid all these unnecessary injuries.
My thoughts exactly...
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 20:04
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77X is the next problem child on the horizon.
Dunno where you get that from - the B777 also had a virtually flawless entry into service.
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