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Old 22nd Nov 2017, 14:55
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QZ535 loses cabin pressure

Air Asia Perth to Bali reports of plummeting at 11m/s
(How often does that happen?)
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Not sure i'd describe that as plummeting...
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Ah ha but you're not a journalist in 2017 desperate for a tag line in your failing rag.
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Oh dear god, I was PLUMMETING from the sky at 25m/s tonight,
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News.com.au reports plummeting at 700m/min from 10,000 to 330 feet....
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A terrifying rate of 2,200fpm 😒
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I assume they mean ROD was 2200FPM as the aircraft descended from FL330 to 10,000ft???. I’d blame this on a graduate but nah.
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A rate of 11 m/s equates to approximately 2200 ft/min. That is a standard descent rate. Emergency descent procedures require a descent near mmo/vmo unless structural damage is suspected. It also requires extension of full speedbrake resulting in a rate of descent in excess of 4000'/min. I suspect the speedbrakes weren't even deployed contrary to SOP's and I'd love to know the actual speed on descent. I guess we will have to wait for the full report.
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Please hold onto any further discussions until our resident aviation expert, GT has provided his opinions.
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Definition of plummet.

fall or drop straight down at high speed.
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A more prudent descent is existing speed, speed brake until the possibility of structural damage is eliminated. Existing speed VS Vmo makes little difference to the time,reduces workload in moving speed bug during descent, existing speed covers manouvering margins due weather, turb etc, frees up some brain space to evaluate the problem.
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Originally Posted by Glorified Dus Briver
Please hold onto any further discussions until our resident aviation expert, GT has provided his opinions.
From Geoffery Thomas - West Australian newspaper

Report into Air Asia flight QF535 found pressurization system to blame

AirAsia flight QF535 was on its way to Bali from Perth and had started climbing from 24,000ft to its initial cruise altitude of 34,000ft when problems emerged.
Luckily, Geoff and AJ seem to be on good speaking terms....
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Lift speeds

Fastest:-
Taipei 101 Skyscraper Speed: 3,313 feet/min, Height: 1,670 feet, Elevator Supplier: Toshiba. Time From Ground To Roof*: 30 seconds.

Burj Khalifa — Dubai, United Arab Emirates is 3rd fastest, Speed: 1,968.5 feet/min, Height: 2717 ft, Time From Ground To Roof*: 1 minute 22 seconds,
Supplier Otis.

Freshwater Place, Melbourne, Australia, Elevator speed: 1,772 feet per minute.

In Kalgoorlie the old mine shafts would wined at 1900 ft/min however I read that in South Africa 6000ft shafts wined men at 3000 ft/min and ore at 4000.

Note:- Mine shafts are limited to 6000ft because of rope weight so places like Western Deep have to 3 stage shafts, surface and two internal.

So office workers often plummet at these speeds
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I can’t keep up with all these ScareAsia incidents, mods...maybe time to start a sticky or something?
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