Tigerair fleet change to B737.

[SpyderPig]

Originally Posted by PoppaJo

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Are there any VARA opps for these 737 or Airbus guys?

Vara has its own issues with 3 F100s been parked and being over crewed, with many taking part time and spending AL and long service they’re still a couple heavy in both seats. With FNP about to leave the fleet it’ll be back to 5 320s which are already crewed.

I hate to say it but when Vara had too many pilots 6 months ago it was “Sorry, entry level positions only” available to them. So that’s 777 SO, ATR FO and VANZ 73 FO. The unions were the ones who dug their heels in on freeze waivers and movement to the 737 etc so I doubt they’ll fling the doors open to displace any of the existing VARA guys and girls. I’m told 3 FOs took the VANZ option, they must be really feeling the heat now.

This was told to me at a party two weeks ago by a vara 100 FO but make of it what you want.

[Colonel_Klink]

This is a genuinely rubbish situation to be in - and the TT guys have my complete sympathy. As does any pilot worried about where the next pay cheque is coming from.

Given the clear directive from the Company to stop the outflow of cash at the moment - I think the Company will fight tooth and nail to not replace the current 737 guys. From a business perspective and a financial perspective, it makes absolutely no sense for them to train a 320 crew on to the 737 to then make a 737 crew redundant.

It would not be outside the realms of possibility for the Company to come out and say that if they are forced down that route, then the whole operation is not viable.

[burned_out]

TT given the arse! lol....

Crazy announcement today guys, but the writing was on the wall!!
My condolences to all, including VA guys (the less venomous ones).

So VA guys will be pooled into one AOC and operate the same aircraft (Virgin and Tigerair 737's)..... given Stuart Aggs update, there will be enough pilots to operate both smaller fleets for the foreseeable future, including the "recovery". In other words, only the senior guys in VA will have jobs and so no chance of any Tigerair pilot dreamer to get in on any pilot group vacancy given the large numbers in front of them on the group seniority list..... Sorry TT and VANZ, take the Redundancy and best of luck for the future!!

Oh the **** show that is..... onwards and upwards..... to the Centerlink holding point!

[drunk_pilot]

Originally Posted by burned_out

Crazy announcement today guys, but the writing was on the wall!!
My condolences to all, including VA guys (the less venomous ones).

So VA guys will be pooled into one AOC and operate the same aircraft (Virgin and Tigerair 737's)..... given Stuart Aggs update, there will be enough pilots to operate both smaller fleets for the foreseeable future, including the "recovery". In other words, only the senior guys in VA will have jobs and so no chance of any Tigerair pilot dreamer to get in on any pilot group vacancy given the large numbers in front of them on the group seniority list..... Sorry TT and VANZ, take the Redundancy and best of luck for the future!!

Oh the **** show that is..... onwards and upwards..... to the Centerlink holding point!

I might have “got the arse” as you so eloquently put it, but I’m still willing to bet I’d rather be me having got the Arse, than be a complete toss pot like you.

Side note, I sincerely wish all my colleagues the best for the future. Flying isn’t everything, try to keep your health and spend time with your loved ones. It’s an absolute $hit sandwich, but nobody is alone in it. Be honest to yourself and share your thoughts and feeling with a good mate or family. Don’t carry the burden alone.

[Led Zeppelin]

DP - good luck to you mate. It's a very sad time all round

[normanton]

If you think a company will follow seniority in the current climate you will be severely mistaken.

The company will claim the training costs are not feasible. It will get nasty and go to FWA, and they will agree with the company.

Last in, first off, will not work. It will send the company broke.

[burned_out]

Originally Posted by drunk_pilot

I might have “got the arse” as you so eloquently put it, but I’m still willing to bet I’d rather be me having got the Arse, than be a complete toss pot like you.

So you resort to abuse ? Why? I never quoted "getting the arse" so the only "toss pot" is you being clearly emotional (and you should be, especially if you didnt see it coming; not sure why you didnt).

Like I said, best of luck to All including VA guys .... the less venomous ones

[das Uber Soldat]

Originally Posted by burned_out

So you resort to abuse ? Why? I never quoted "getting the arse" so the only "toss pot" is you being clearly emotional (and you should be, especially if you didnt see it coming; not sure why you didnt).

Like I said, best of luck to All including VA guys .... the less venomous ones

You really think comments like "you should have seen it coming" are useful in a horrible time such as this? Are you on the spectrum or just incredibly rude?

Far out.

[Dookie on Drums]

Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat

You really think comments like "you should have seen it coming" are useful in a horrible time such as this? Are you on the spectrum or just incredibly rude?

Far out.

Probably not but who makes you the Messiah? The fact is the writing was on the wall for a very long time. As humans, we prefer to bury our heads in the sand and hope for the best. What use is your comment really?

[PoppaJo]

Look I saw the writing on the wall in 2008, 9,10,11. I got nervous 6 months from the get go. I started asking for my job back in Singapore in 2009.

I even remember a previous ruthless Singapore exec who flew down to close it. Saving face was worth more to the higher ups way up in Singapore so he didn’t get his way and got the boot.

It should have really been removed a decade ago. Well everyone pissed off to Strategic anyway.

[machtuk]

Sadly this was the writing in the wall for the last 4 years, it was only a matter of time before the last straw (virus) broke the Tigers back!
I hope that the guys/gals find peace one day -)

[Green.Dot]

Good luck everyone, another sad day in the wonderful world of aviation. A great place to work with a can do attitude amongst the staff let down by atrocious management

[Icarus2001]

Thoughts with everyone who has been stood down but particularly the Tiger boys and girls. I understand end of April for end so service.

So if VA plan to run Tiger with mainline VA 737 pilots what do they do with the A320s? Send them back? Hand them to VARA?

Or is it going to be a moot point very soon, sad to say?

[wheels_down]

Redundancy appears to be pushed forward to next Friday for all 220 Pilots.