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Old 7th Feb 2017, 10:40
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11,300' at 10nm is not normal. That combined with minimal radio work is also not good airmanship. You seriously can't be defending this?

150kts = 2.5 nm/min = 4 min from 10,000' = 2500'/min...... Really?
Don't go to YMRY. You might wet your pants.

The risk level at which you wet your pants is not an objective measure.

Re straight in approaches can be done and is done all time Jepp ATC 6.7.6.
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 10:42
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Most of the rules in Australia have been a special kind of stupid for a long time, and fortunately the rules have little-to-no causal connection with safety outcomes.
I do agree to some extent
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 10:43
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11,300' at 10nm is not normal.
If you were conducting spin testing, how far away would you recommend going so you would not be spinning through altitudes likely to be used by RPT?

straight in approaches can be done and is done all time
I know, but my memory is that they were not always allowed. I was trying to remember when that changed. I would guess early 2000s, but that seems very recent so my memory may be faulty.
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 11:19
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If you were conducting spin testing, how far away would you recommend going so you would not be spinning through altitudes likely to be used by RPT?
It's not the place they were doing the testing, it was the approach they did afterward.

Originally Posted by LB
The risk level at which you wet your pants is not an objective measure.
Originally Posted by LB
Jepps ain't the authority.
More completely pointless codswallop. You really need to give the snipes and barbs a rest, LB. It really is pathetic that you continue to harp on about mandatory this and that verses recommended this and that. The only reason things are mandatory is because there are idiots around who have no idea about commonsense/don't care/deliberately disobey because they can't stand being told what they should say/do.

Last edited by Capn Bloggs; 7th Feb 2017 at 22:38. Reason: The end bit didn't make sense.
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 20:00
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The risk level at which you wet your pants is not an objective measure.
Don't be silly.

No, but the pucker factor has kept pilots alive for a long time. It's our internal risk assessment tool.

If pilots don't have good airmanship and disregard safety then they're putting themselves and others at risk. This is objective ok.
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 21:36
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Originally Posted by Utradar
Don't be silly.

No, but the pucker factor has kept pilots alive for a long time. It's our internal risk assessment tool.

If pilots don't have good airmanship and disregard safety then they're putting themselves and others at risk. This is objective ok.
Well said.

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