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Old 12th May 2016, 20:45   #1 (permalink)
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Jetstar Aus/NZ Positions

Advertised last night for Australian/NZ based A320 pilots.

Guess this puts the whole ATPL thing to bed?

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Australian Air Transport Pilot Licence or a CPL with passess in all Australian ATPL subjects
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Old 12th May 2016, 21:41   #2 (permalink)
 
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Is it only Melbourne base on offer? Or is that just the location of the interview?
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Old 12th May 2016, 23:41   #3 (permalink)
 
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MEL based.

Not sure if AVV is part of MEL or seperate
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Once you're on the list you can bid to go wherever you like, subject to positions of course being advertised.

I'd imagine with the recruitment drive they've just announced, plus guys returning to qantas and replacements, they'll need a minimum of 5 a month for two years to get their numbers. They can't all go to Melbourne.
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How long is the wait list for a Brisbane or Gold Coast base?
Or is it still a SEQ base?
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Word of advice, if you want the job forget the location. Get the job first then negotiate it. I've got no affiliation with the Qantas group, however I'm adamant that Jetstar would have a very strong seniority list, start at the bottom and move your way up.

Good luck to all who apply!
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The email also said they expect more to leave (QF MOU pilots returning) and they want to INCREASE the pilot numbers from 800 to 850 so my guess is it will be closer to 100 needed to be recruited.
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Will somebody help me get back up from the floor? Now that was bloody funny.
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Old 14th May 2016, 09:53   #9 (permalink)
 
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So what is involved in the recruitment process? Do you still have to pay for the psychometric testing, sim interview, Endorsement plus $10,000 'management fee'..
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Average Captain age around 40-business model says no more than 65 aircraft for Aus. Conclusion-unless prepared for the offshore pay-cut you are signing up to spend many years in the RHS of a LCC or getting jet time to move to a real airline outside Australia-where conditions are also going down and seniority lists are now very long. The industry is not for those without stamina!
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Well said cleared to land!
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Old 18th May 2016, 07:45   #12 (permalink)
 
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Do you still have to pay for the psychometric testing, sim interview, Endorsement plus $10,000 'management fee'…..
Can't tell you about the interview process costs but under the latest EBA the company will pay for your type-rating with the proviso that you will remain on the 'level 1' FO salary for 4 years rather than 12 months.

Currently basic narrow-body FO1 salary is $101075 (uplifts by 3% in July) but a prospective employee may only be offered employment under the Flexi-Line agreement (effectively 75% part-time) which would make it a basic of $74121. If employed under FL you must be offered full-time after 24 months from checked-to-line if you're not out of the cap of 10% of total pilot strength, ie only 80 pilots out of 800 can be on 'forced' FL. Pilots on Flexi-line can be rostered no more than 15 working days per month and will usually be rostered to 56 credit hours, any excess being payable, but are not entitled to work under the 'Highline' provisions of the EBA.

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Can't tell you about the interview process costs but under the latest EBA the company will pay for your type-rating with the proviso that you will remain on the 'level 1' FO salary for 4 years rather than 12 months.

Currently basic narrow-body FO1 salary is $101075 (uplifts by 3% in July) but a prospective employee may only be offered employment under the Flexi-Line agreement (effectively 75% part-time) which would make it a basic of $74121. If employed under FL you must be offered full-time after 24 months from checked-to-line if you're not out of the cap of 10% of total pilot strength, ie only 80 pilots out of 800 can be on 'forced' FL. Pilots on Flexi-line can be rostered no more than 15 working days per month and will usually be rostered to 56 credit hours, any excess being payable, but are not entitled to work under the 'Highline' provisions of the EBA.
Thanks for this bit of insight. Do you know if same/similar rules apply to Jetstar NZ?
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Jetstar NZ are hiring on the basis of a time bond. The Company will front the cost of the type rating and in return you are bonded for either 3 or 4 years (can't remember which). If you leave in that time then you owe them a proportion of the training cost. Its a pretty good deal.
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Jetstar NZ are hiring on the basis of a time bond. The Company will front the cost of the type rating and in return you are bonded for either 3 or 4 years (can't remember which). If you leave in that time then you owe them a proportion of the training cost. Its a pretty good deal.
What is the value of this TR i.e. how much does Jetstar NZ 'charges' for it?
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Pilots on Flexi-line can be rostered no more than 15 working days per month and will usually be rostered to 56 credit hours
So get 1-2 days off more a month but only 75% of the pay.

Funny how a lot of these 'part time' positions result in you working nearly as hard as a full time position; seems the only thing 'part' is your pay.
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Old 19th May 2016, 19:00   #17 (permalink)
 
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So get 1-2 days off more a month but only 75% of the pay.

Funny how a lot of these 'part time' positions result in you working nearly as hard as a full time position; seems the only thing 'part' is your pay.
Need some help with the maths?

15 - 11 = 4 extra days off per (roster) month.

If you work harder, you get paid more. It suits some of us to cram the work into less days, so I'm supportive of options like this.
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Hi AileronsNeutral,

You are right about the salary starting at $101,075 for a Level 1 FO. But I don't know were you are getting that they are required to be hired as a flexi line pilot?

I think you will find that they will be full time pilots. So they then have the option of highline that gives you an additional payment per duty hour worked as well as duty time allowance. Average duty per year is 1120 hours per year.

These new pilots will not start until after July 2016 so they would be looking at
Base $104,107 plus $5.79 per hour of duty. Average duty hours per year equals another $6484 plus DTA of approximately $5756. Total salary excluding extra flying allowance or day off payments equals $116,347.
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What is the difference between non high line and high line?
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Old 20th May 2016, 09:08   #20 (permalink)
 
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SHVC,

The difference is as follows:

A) Two roster periods per finical year can be reduced to 9 days off, But you still get minimum 132 days of per calendar year.

B) You can be rostered up to 8 Available days per finical year. These day still come out of your total work days so your not doing any more work just being rostered differently.

For these two things you get paid an additional $5.78 per duty hour.
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