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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:05   #81 (permalink)
 
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Yawn,
Sorry but you sound like an MBA student.

You will need to work on English skills, grammar etc.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:06   #82 (permalink)
 
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I was just shocked at what they were saying.

I hope the senators were just as shocked as I was.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:12   #83 (permalink)
 
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Hats off to the Jeffstar F/As, even low cost is not low enough.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:12   #84 (permalink)
 
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Ye Gods and little fishes; someone's actually posted a thoughtful post on this vitriole fuelled thread. May the balance return.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:16   #85 (permalink)
 
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Air Navigation and Civil Aviation Amendment (Aircraft Crew) Bill 2011; Qantas Sale Amendment (Still Call Australia Home) Bill 2011

November 4, 2011 - Part 3
more to follow...

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:16   #86 (permalink)
 
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It amazes me that these geniuses that are paid in the millions always revert to cutting costs, no matter what the industry or business is. Anyone ever think of increasing income or is that just too hard? just a thought.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:27   #87 (permalink)
 
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Oh dear, oh dear, ALL the dirty washing came out today. Did the AIPA get to talk, trying to keep up with it with it all. Never in my long time in Aviation have I heard such ball breaking stuff come out. The JQ flight attendants were excellent, but I would be putting in for a interview with Virgin right now, or making sure their luggage is securely locked, (the old alcohol found in bag trick, unacounted bottle missing from on board, so popular with management, trick), Steve was excellent also, told it as it is. The QF spin dept, will be spinning like a top right this very minute, with more to come, I suggest you get more popcorn for tomorrow. Oh how I love to see management squirm. Much as I hate to say it, the Labor/Greens have just about won themselves about 45, 000 votes today.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:36   #88 (permalink)
 
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Those JQ flight attendants deserve a medal....someone please send them one on my behalf.

Tks for the video's BB. SP's answer to Senator Abetz wrt SP's "bodies down the river" quote was absolute gold......looking forward to seeing it again!!
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:37   #89 (permalink)
 
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Devil

Will someone, anyone, tell Woodward from AIPA that there's not a "Y" in Australia?
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:47   #90 (permalink)
 
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Union members acting in the long term interests of the airline [keeping their jobs]
That would be in the best interests of the employees then, that does not have to be the airlines. In a lot of cases this is the case, as a happy employee is a productive employee. But there are times when that is not the case, and its just antiquated jobs for life attitude.

What is it like at QANTAS, I have no idea, as usual in cases like this the two sides are to close to the issue to be able to make a cold unemotional judgment. As has been said a few times in the media the last few days, "do we need a national carrier?", would we better served with a few solid well run completly independent carriers?
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:53   #91 (permalink)


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Mr Joyce was questioned about the decision to ground the entire Qantas fleet last Saturday.
Senator Xenophon asked him whether he envisaged, last Friday at the company's annual general meeting, that he would ground the fleet a day later.
"I didn't have any view on the prospect of it," Mr Joyce replied.
Well that's interesting... Why did Samantha Taranto (head of QF Cabin Crew) send Cabin Crew managers upline on Friday afternoon?? Apparently, the managers were sent to SIN, LAX (and others) on a last-minute basis on Friday afternoon. They were unaware of why they were going, but knew it was something big... After the announcement of the grounding of the fleet on Saturday, those managers were then made available for communication and support for cabin crew stuck upline. Curious...

Any flight attendant who was listening to Crew Voice over the weekend could verify this.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 05:57   #92 (permalink)
 
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Air Navigation and Civil Aviation Amendment (Aircraft Crew) Bill 2011; Qantas Sale Amendment (Still Call Australia Home) Bill 2011

November 4, 2011 - Part 4

I don't have any material from the afternoon session. If anyone has a recording of the afternoon session, please keep it and PM me so we can get it posted up.


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Old 4th Nov 2011, 06:01   #93 (permalink)
 
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No, so where would you like me to start? If it's all very well for some to sling off and satirise the Irish accent of Alan Joyce, then the poor diction and Australian accent of an AIPA rep must also be fair game.

Having read through this thread I must have been watching another Senate hearing involving the same players. I can't believe that so many are so blinkered.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 06:02   #94 (permalink)


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Mr Joyce was questioned about the decision to ground the entire Qantas fleet last Saturday.
Senator Xenophon asked him whether he envisaged, last Friday at the company's annual general meeting, that he would ground the fleet a day later.
"I didn't have any view on the prospect of it," Mr Joyce replied.
If the above is true, then why were a number of Cabin Crew managers sent upline, last minute on FRIDAY afternoon? After the Saturday afternoon grounding of the fleet, those managers were made available for information and support to longhaul cabin crew who were stuck upline...

This definitely happened.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 06:08   #95 (permalink)
 
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You Ken, of course, are the pillar of objectivity!!
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 06:51   #96 (permalink)
 
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Ken, are you a kiwi by any chance?

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No Mate. We aren't going there. It has nothing to do with Qantas or aviation!

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Senator Bob Brown did say something to AJ today during the Senate saga; "you've had a big stick behind your back and you haven't showed it to anyone".

Maybe Senator Brown was onto something......
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 07:07   #98 (permalink)
 
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breakfastburrito, many, many thanks for recording these and making them available to view after the event. I haven't been able to watch today and look forward to doing so tonight when I get home. I also hope that someone recorded this afternoons sessions.
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Yes thanks, love to see Jetstar flighty testimony
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Goblin "A mischievous, ugly, dwarf like creature"...with an intellect to match it seems...
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