DASH 8 accident in PNG
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Off course. The translation from pidgin to english is "We are sorry to hear of your aircraft going in. We, who have flown in PNG feel your pain'". Anyone who has lived and worked in PNG have nothing but deep affection and gratitude for the time spent there. I had 8 wonderful years there, with TAA, and remain friends with some both expats and natives to this day. PNG is hard flying country, and is the best training any pilot can have. My admiration and good wishes go to the Capt and F/O, a sterling job in the terrain I know so well. My sympathies go to the families of those that did not survive, also something I have seen many times before.
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APNG UPDATED PRESS RELEASE
POMSOX/MEDIA RELEASE
Port Moresby – Friday October 14th 2011
AIRLINES PNG PLEDGES TOTAL SUPPORT FOLLOWING MADANG TRAGEDY
Airlines PNG today pledged its total commitment to establish the cause of yesterday’s tragic accident near Madang, and do whatever needs to be done to support the families of those lost.
"Today we join with the mourning and the sadness of the entire nation, in this truly dreadful day for PNG and its people", said APNG spokesman, Erastus Kamburi.
The company has established there was an emergency situation onboard its Dash-8 aircraft, on approach to Madang airport. It has also been confirmed there was bad weather in the area at the time. The crew attempted to conduct a controlled emergency landing but the aircraft broke up on impact. Part of the fuselage caught fire.
Despite attempts by crew to assist in the rescue, 28 passengers died at the scene. It is believed all the deceased are PNG nationals.
Airlines PNG is actively working with authorities for the repatriation of the victims to their families.
We can confirm that Capt Bill Spencer, First Officer Campbell Wagstaff, Flight Attendant Kapi Eria, and one passenger survived the accident.
64 year-old Capt Spencer is a former A310 Captain. He has in excess of 45 years flying experience-including 35 years in PNG. First Officer Wagstaff has over 2,500 hours flying experience.
The company has initiated an investigation in co-ordination with PNG authorities and both the aircraft and engine manufacturers. Transport Canada will also be involved as the regulatory authority for the state in which the aircraft was manufactured. The investigation will be wide-ranging: including areas such as weather, fuel, any possible mid-air fire or any mechanical issues. The company has grounded its remaining 11 Dash-8 aircraft until it is satisfied there are no safety issues with the fleet.
Mr Kamburi said: "This is our commitment to the people of PNG, the families of those lost, and the survivors of this terrible tragedy: we will give you our total support in the days and months ahead. We will do whatever is needed to find the answers as to what happened and to share those answers with you all."
"Today we join with the mourning and the sadness of the entire nation, in this truly dreadful day for PNG and its people", said APNG spokesman, Erastus Kamburi.
The company has established there was an emergency situation onboard its Dash-8 aircraft, on approach to Madang airport. It has also been confirmed there was bad weather in the area at the time. The crew attempted to conduct a controlled emergency landing but the aircraft broke up on impact. Part of the fuselage caught fire.
Despite attempts by crew to assist in the rescue, 28 passengers died at the scene. It is believed all the deceased are PNG nationals.
Airlines PNG is actively working with authorities for the repatriation of the victims to their families.
We can confirm that Capt Bill Spencer, First Officer Campbell Wagstaff, Flight Attendant Kapi Eria, and one passenger survived the accident.
64 year-old Capt Spencer is a former A310 Captain. He has in excess of 45 years flying experience-including 35 years in PNG. First Officer Wagstaff has over 2,500 hours flying experience.
The company has initiated an investigation in co-ordination with PNG authorities and both the aircraft and engine manufacturers. Transport Canada will also be involved as the regulatory authority for the state in which the aircraft was manufactured. The investigation will be wide-ranging: including areas such as weather, fuel, any possible mid-air fire or any mechanical issues. The company has grounded its remaining 11 Dash-8 aircraft until it is satisfied there are no safety issues with the fleet.
Mr Kamburi said: "This is our commitment to the people of PNG, the families of those lost, and the survivors of this terrible tragedy: we will give you our total support in the days and months ahead. We will do whatever is needed to find the answers as to what happened and to share those answers with you all."
For further information contact: [email protected]
PNG Media: Andrew Johnson +675 768686 0123 Intl Media: Lee Anderson +675 71939251
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Tailwind, its obvious the crew are traumatised and have no idea what really happened here. Therefore the posting of info that came from PNG has no bearing and should be iqnored. Please remove, thanks.
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Very sad news to hear about what happen, My heart goes out to the families and friend of those who have lost their love ones, relieve to hear that the crew survived this time so they can shed some light on what happen.
Dont know the Capt & F/O all that well they were still doing their line training when I cross the road.
Its sad to see on TV the wreckage of MCJ still in smoke, it was my favorite in the whole fleet.
To the wantoks bilong mi still in APNG be strong my brothers
Ofa Atu
MJ
Dont know the Capt & F/O all that well they were still doing their line training when I cross the road.
Its sad to see on TV the wreckage of MCJ still in smoke, it was my favorite in the whole fleet.
To the wantoks bilong mi still in APNG be strong my brothers
Ofa Atu
MJ
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The black boxes have been retrieved this morning and the weather is now clear at the site so the investigation can begin.
condolences to all the staff at APNG and those affected by this tragedy.
condolences to all the staff at APNG and those affected by this tragedy.
Saw footage of the crash site on the news. At least one prop appears to be feathered. Something abnormal befell this crew. Hopefully they get to the bottom of it. 
Very sad for the victims and the fiends and family's of them. I really don't think you can feel their huge pain without seeing these grieving folks. It is kind of anonymous for most of us. It really is very sad and I hope all possible assistance is offered at this terrible time.
I would also ask, regarding the crew, to put your self into this situation, and how would you feel with wild rumours being reported as truth. Clearly, lots of **** went down very fast in very testing conditions. Rumors help no one except give jurno's ammunition to sell news papers. Lets hope a proper investigation is done, and they have the crew and the data recorders to help with this, the it is very likely that a proper investigation will be done, not like the days of old in PNG. Please put your self on the other side of the fence when posting, presume the grieving families of unfortunate victims that perished in what would have been a terrifying final few mins are also reading this as well.
Best wishers for all unfortunate soles involved.
Pilots from Australia and NZ survive PNG plane crash which kills 28 | The Australian
Plane crash survivors flown to PNG capital - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Top Stories
Bad fuel suspected in PNG air tragedy | The Australian
A Lae-based Australian businessman, who had left the aircraft just hours before the crash, said bad fuel was the likely cause.
The businessman - a long-time resident of PNG - played down strong rain in the area as a cause, saying sudden changes in weather were a fact of life for PNG pilots. The Australian News paper reporting???
I would also ask, regarding the crew, to put your self into this situation, and how would you feel with wild rumours being reported as truth. Clearly, lots of **** went down very fast in very testing conditions. Rumors help no one except give jurno's ammunition to sell news papers. Lets hope a proper investigation is done, and they have the crew and the data recorders to help with this, the it is very likely that a proper investigation will be done, not like the days of old in PNG. Please put your self on the other side of the fence when posting, presume the grieving families of unfortunate victims that perished in what would have been a terrifying final few mins are also reading this as well.
Best wishers for all unfortunate soles involved.
Pilots from Australia and NZ survive PNG plane crash which kills 28 | The Australian
Plane crash survivors flown to PNG capital - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Top Stories
Bad fuel suspected in PNG air tragedy | The Australian
A Lae-based Australian businessman, who had left the aircraft just hours before the crash, said bad fuel was the likely cause.
The businessman - a long-time resident of PNG - played down strong rain in the area as a cause, saying sudden changes in weather were a fact of life for PNG pilots. The Australian News paper reporting???
Last edited by Ejector; 15th Oct 2011 at 05:04.
Crap fuel out of Lae/Nabzab..
The aeroplane has crashed, and some are speculating over an apparent feathered prop/blade amongst the wreckage.
From that, I guess you could say it must of caught fire on the way down. Well just look at that burnt fuselage...
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Theresa Green had a very concise post as if he had spoken with the pilot and maybe an old mate.......post vannished. probably too close to the truth.
Whats the story TG?
Whats the story TG?
Actually what TG said is the most logical as well in my opinion. I am glad he deleted it though. One death is one to many, RIP.
But after an horrific accident like this, one life surviving is better than non.
What TG said sounds like your worse nightmare. I hope the company though everything they can at helping the victims families, what a stressful time for all.
But after an horrific accident like this, one life surviving is better than non.
What TG said sounds like your worse nightmare. I hope the company though everything they can at helping the victims families, what a stressful time for all.
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Bloody tradgedy....the bloke is at the pointy end of his brilliant career and this happens. He will spend the remaining years of his life, not reminiscing the great days in aviation but rather the lost souls of this accident....the ship of which he was in command, I feel terribly for all concerned. 
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The aeroplane has crashed, and some are speculating over an apparent feathered prop/blade amongst the wreckage.
From that, I guess you could say it must of caught fire on the way down. Well just look at that burnt fuselage...
From that, I guess you could say it must of caught fire on the way down. Well just look at that burnt fuselage...
All in PNG are waiting to find what happened and I guess look for evidence from the crash site.
A propellor in feather does indicate something other than operating normally at time of accident.
BH
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In a news report broadcast yesterday on Ch9's Today Show, I was stunned to hear Miss Dollybird Reporter state quite confidently that it would be one month before the crew would be returning to the cockpit on normal flying duties.
Really?? One WHOLE month???
The Daft Tart.
My sympathies to the crew & families involved - this is a dark day, indeed.
Really?? One WHOLE month???
The Daft Tart.
My sympathies to the crew & families involved - this is a dark day, indeed.