J* Command Prospects going Gangbusters!
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J* Command Prospects going Gangbusters!
Very short of Capts in Perth over Xmas.
Management pleaded for anyone with previous command time to "step up". I've heard at least 1 lucky FO off the A320 is being "fast tracked" to help out with a 3 week course to the left seat! Accom / Car all thrown in to sweeten the deal!
Looks like the glory days are returning and we will see our career prospects back to where they were a year ago!
Gotta love a "quickie" Command course
Management pleaded for anyone with previous command time to "step up". I've heard at least 1 lucky FO off the A320 is being "fast tracked" to help out with a 3 week course to the left seat! Accom / Car all thrown in to sweeten the deal!
Looks like the glory days are returning and we will see our career prospects back to where they were a year ago!
Gotta love a "quickie" Command course
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Doesn't merit work wonderfully well. No wonder the LCC HR departments are so keen to see it's continued use. It really does have a dollar value in keeping our expectations lowered because they can appeal across the company to someone who is 'meritorious' enough for the upgrade rather than promoting in seniority and trg well.
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I must have missed something. Why is it necessary that this pilot or his company is lowering standards? He/she is current on the A320, meets the standards required, has previous command time.....why isn't a 3 week command course enough? That's only the entry level to start OE training which would be probably 100 hrs minimum-say 50 sectors I suppose.
Someone enlighten me please?
Someone enlighten me please?
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Hey Toruk,
Re-read Jetstarpilots post. It was for anyone with previous command exp. The requirements were actually for previous 320/330 command experience within the group, so that means they have already done their Command "Coarse". Its a temporary requirement only!
Re-read Jetstarpilots post. It was for anyone with previous command exp. The requirements were actually for previous 320/330 command experience within the group, so that means they have already done their Command "Coarse". Its a temporary requirement only!
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I am fairly sure the reason they were asking for previous group exp is because of the short time frame. There are plenty within the seniority list who more than meet the command requirements, but as they would need to do an initial coarse, the timing would be too slow.......thats how I read it anyway!
scam sniffer...
Re the 6-week course you proposed, which includes the 3-week spelling/grammar module............Mustang 47 looks like a candidate for that one too.
Re the 6-week course you proposed, which includes the 3-week spelling/grammar module............Mustang 47 looks like a candidate for that one too.
Management pleaded for anyone with previous command time to "step up".
This is another reason terms and conditions continue to detoriate in this country.
Once upon a time airlines would invest in their employees, now they look for the cheapest to convert.
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Looks like the glory days are returning and we will see our career prospects back to where they were a year ago!
Gotta love a "quickie" Command course
Gotta love a "quickie" Command course
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You got it....those glory days. The ones where thanks to JQ the routes unprofitable under the dinosaur ways of the legacy mainline operation can be run profitably by mainline's ugly yet very necessary step-sister. Both airlines within the one group, each beneficial to the other and way better than having Tiger or VB pick up the routes from outside the group.
Yes, those glory days.
Yes, those glory days.
Airbus A320 39 3.7 years On 194 airlines operating this type of aircraft Jetstar ranks 52
Airbus A321 6 4.5 years On 63 airlines operating this type of aircraft Jetstar ranks 17
Boeing 747 27 16.2 years On 101 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 41
Boeing 767 26 17.7 years On 107 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 67
Boeing 737 17 18.5 years On 294 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 96
Says it all really. Or was that time to command in each airline? Or did someone mention relative maintenance costs? Or was the word neglect?
Airbus A321 6 4.5 years On 63 airlines operating this type of aircraft Jetstar ranks 17
Boeing 747 27 16.2 years On 101 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 41
Boeing 767 26 17.7 years On 107 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 67
Boeing 737 17 18.5 years On 294 airlines operating this type of aircraft Qantas ranks 96
Says it all really. Or was that time to command in each airline? Or did someone mention relative maintenance costs? Or was the word neglect?
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Nothing to see here.............
The same blokes, pushing the same lines, displaying their ugly prejudices once again.
For a laugh have a look at Jetstarpilot's previous posts and draw your own conclusions about what sort of bloke he is. Man are you angry or what? I don't think you're going to be the keystone to positive pilot unity in this lifetime.
For a laugh have a look at Jetstarpilot's previous posts and draw your own conclusions about what sort of bloke he is. Man are you angry or what? I don't think you're going to be the keystone to positive pilot unity in this lifetime.
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Genex, have you applied any independent thinking there or just been reading the brochure?
eg: 2 * 767 each day, CNS - NRT, always with high loads, just given away to a low yielding operation, not favoured by the Japanese market. I'm sure you'll try and spin that one but it is what it is.
Have a nice day.
eg: 2 * 767 each day, CNS - NRT, always with high loads, just given away to a low yielding operation, not favoured by the Japanese market. I'm sure you'll try and spin that one but it is what it is.
Have a nice day.
Nunc est bibendum
You're right. The uninformed here on PPRUNE shouldn't question J*'s safety and training culture at all. We can let their own do that:
Nothing to worry about with the 3 week command course then folks. J* has it all under control. 
A Jetstar training captain and former air-accident investigator has raised concerns about safety standards at the low-cost airline....
...a Jetstar pilot and a former senior investigator at the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, said captains had stood down some flight attendants because of their lack of safety training for the A321s, which was a ''symptom of the reduction [by Jetstar] in resources and training''.
....was a fleet investigator in Jetstar's safety department when one of its aircraft made an aborted landing in Melbourne on June 21, 2007.
Although he said there was not a ''deliberate attempt to conceal information'', there were ''no protocols that required the ATSB to be informed of subsequent information'' about the incident.
His role as a fleet investigator was a part-time position as he was also a first officer.
.....said his investigation into the Melbourne incident was limited by a ''lack of resources'' in the department.
....'As a part-time investigator I was not provided with a computer and had to provide my own, and I was not even allocated a desk,'
...a Jetstar pilot and a former senior investigator at the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, said captains had stood down some flight attendants because of their lack of safety training for the A321s, which was a ''symptom of the reduction [by Jetstar] in resources and training''.
....was a fleet investigator in Jetstar's safety department when one of its aircraft made an aborted landing in Melbourne on June 21, 2007.
Although he said there was not a ''deliberate attempt to conceal information'', there were ''no protocols that required the ATSB to be informed of subsequent information'' about the incident.
His role as a fleet investigator was a part-time position as he was also a first officer.
.....said his investigation into the Melbourne incident was limited by a ''lack of resources'' in the department.
....'As a part-time investigator I was not provided with a computer and had to provide my own, and I was not even allocated a desk,'