Landing a/c minima sep
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Sounds like the good old days when experience, common sense and a judicious application of the rules took precedence over the paper tigers who could only tell you it was the wrong decision when they had had a week to think about it!!
Yet the rules allow me to hover taxy to the runway to line up and wait if I wanted to, or would have to do in a skidded aircraft. So I'm already airborne....
Sounds like the good old days when experience, common sense and a judicious application of the rules took precedence over the paper tigers who could only tell you it was the wrong decision when they had had a week to think about it!!
[We also had more fun and less paperwork!!]
[We also had more fun and less paperwork!!]
DC4 following a DC3; at POL the DC3 is 10 min ahead - separated.
At DCS, the DC4 is 7 min ahead and increasing - separated.
The 'D' man couldn't understand the request from the DC4 to overtake on the right!
(I think I know who you are Helen)
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I like the idea that ShannonACC submitted his inquiry on Pprune. Others can learn about the situation plus you get feedback from colleagues who are not sitting beside you.
Those who think their time is being wasted; go to another post, you don't have to read them all.
Those who think their time is being wasted; go to another post, you don't have to read them all.
I Have no issue with sharing knowledge.
I have concerns when someone makes reference to a specific occurrence.
The individual claims they are based in Shannon ACC.
They supposedly asked a "Dublin colleague" who was not able to give then an answer.
I found it strange that their next port of inquiry was to post online.
Not to ask any of their "colleagues" in BallyCasey seems strange not to mention pressing a button on the compad and asking one of their "colleagues" in Shannon Tower.
Unlike the UK Irish ATC transmissions are not protected under law and a number of sites frequently listen in and comment online regarding what they have heard/observed.
A particular site has a user with a similar username who's Bona Fides are suspect.
I have concerns when someone makes reference to a specific occurrence.
The individual claims they are based in Shannon ACC.
They supposedly asked a "Dublin colleague" who was not able to give then an answer.
I found it strange that their next port of inquiry was to post online.
Not to ask any of their "colleagues" in BallyCasey seems strange not to mention pressing a button on the compad and asking one of their "colleagues" in Shannon Tower.
Unlike the UK Irish ATC transmissions are not protected under law and a number of sites frequently listen in and comment online regarding what they have heard/observed.
A particular site has a user with a similar username who's Bona Fides are suspect.
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I Have no issue with sharing knowledge.
I have concerns when someone makes reference to a specific occurrence.
The individual claims they are based in Shannon ACC.
They supposedly asked a "Dublin colleague" who was not able to give then an answer.
I found it strange that their next port of inquiry was to post online.
Not to ask any of their "colleagues" in BallyCasey seems strange not to mention pressing a button on the compad and asking one of their "colleagues" in Shannon Tower.
Unlike the UK Irish ATC transmissions are not protected under law and a number of sites frequently listen in and comment online regarding what they have heard/observed.
A particular site has a user with a similar username who's Bona Fides are suspect.
I have concerns when someone makes reference to a specific occurrence.
The individual claims they are based in Shannon ACC.
They supposedly asked a "Dublin colleague" who was not able to give then an answer.
I found it strange that their next port of inquiry was to post online.
Not to ask any of their "colleagues" in BallyCasey seems strange not to mention pressing a button on the compad and asking one of their "colleagues" in Shannon Tower.
Unlike the UK Irish ATC transmissions are not protected under law and a number of sites frequently listen in and comment online regarding what they have heard/observed.
A particular site has a user with a similar username who's Bona Fides are suspect.
That aside worse thing an pilot can do is go around against a rolling aircraft, unless viewed time to stop the departure - you'll always end up closer to it than you would landing even if the other one still rolling down the runway with wheels firmly on ground - one of you is getting faster the other slower - going around means you get faster and already faster than the departure so will always result in being close and both of you are in a configuration that limits any form of wild acrobatics to avoid - my advice always land it unless ATC send you around(or you think ATC fell asleep)
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Quote from 3miles
"That aside worse thing an pilot can do is go around against a rolling aircraft[/quote]
Not sure I agree;
The runway is very two
Dimensional, in that IF two aircraft are on it they are likely
To hit. The chances of aircraft hitting in the air is surely less, given the third dimension (height) and the ability to turn a few degrees?
"That aside worse thing an pilot can do is go around against a rolling aircraft[/quote]
Not sure I agree;
The runway is very two
Dimensional, in that IF two aircraft are on it they are likely
To hit. The chances of aircraft hitting in the air is surely less, given the third dimension (height) and the ability to turn a few degrees?
Last edited by Bright-Ling; 20th Jan 2016 at 19:56. Reason: Misquoted
