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Old 3rd May 2015, 08:52
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I think that LadyATCO has missed the point. It's to protect you and me and the genuine applicants and the employer. There are people around who will try to blag anything. Also SOP for anyone applying to CAA for any form of certifcate or licence.

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It's a long time ago, but I'm fairly certain I had to send NATS/CAA a photo attached to both my ATCO and ATSA application forms.
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Old 3rd May 2015, 19:07
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I can't recall doing it, but then my initial interview for NATCS (they lost 'Control' and became NATS about 5 years later) - then part of the Board of Trade - was in 1967.
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Old 4th May 2015, 23:14
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I realise the choice of words was a bit harsh.

However...
18 months on the market with no buyers - bought by Scottish Government for £1 - on £25 million loan from Scottish Government to operate until 2016 (which is estimated to rise to £40 mil) - running at a loss of £4 million per year.
The Scottish Government made a business plan to return to profit by 2022 estimating passenger growth of 10% per year in the first 5 years.
Like that is going to happen?

The initial loan funding of 21 million until 2022 has now been revised to £40 million until 2021.

How the Scottish Government gets away with throwing good money after bad (while at the same time being very critical of the defence budget and other things) is beyond me - but this is a different subject altogether.
Perhaps the legacy of Elvis landing at PIK and the prospect of a thriving spaceport justify the use of public money to support a failing business.
If I owned a factory (or a football club for that matter) that failed I doubt there would be a similar intervention.

I apologise for the unfortunate choice of words. However the numbers paint anything but a success story I'm sure you'll agree.

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Old 5th May 2015, 22:53
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I'm guessing you're not interested in applying then???
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Old 6th May 2015, 16:12
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Applied for a job there 17 years ago, what a complete clusterf**k! Halfwit on the Information desk left me sitting waiting way past my interview time, despite me telling her several times that I had an interview to attend, and when I finally got to the CTB, the DSATCO greeted me with "where the f**k have you been? We thought you hadn't bothered f**king turning up!"


Needless to say, I found a position somewhere else. Glad I did too.
I believe said knobhead DSATCO ended up in SRG..............figures.
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Old 7th May 2015, 21:55
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I applied a couple of years ago, painstakingly filling out their paper application form, calling to find out who it was appropriate to address my cover letter to, etc, etc. They didn't even have the courtesy to respond and say thanks but no thanks.
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Old 10th May 2015, 19:50
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I'm curious G Man - did you apply on spec or for an advertised ATCO vacancy ?
I don't remember seeing anything there around that time.
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Old 12th May 2015, 06:53
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It was an advertised vacancy. It wasn't two years ago exactly though - September 2013.

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Old 26th Jan 2016, 17:55
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Looking for two more..........


Air Traffic Control Officers (ATCO) | Glasgow Prestwick Airport
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Old 26th Jan 2016, 22:15
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Originally Posted by ZOOKER
Glamdring,
I spent a year living at the seaward end of 13. It's quality, not quantity.
Remember the F104s which were serviced there? And the old story of 'can you make FL250 by the coast?' (meaning east coast)
'Affirm' was the answer.
You guessed it, he was above 250 by the WEST coast!!
Edit to remove 'Luftwaffe'.

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Old 26th Jan 2016, 23:22
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Weren't they RCAF CF-104s? As a 14 year old in 1969, I was shown round the old Scottish Aviation facility and there were several RCAF Starfighters in there then
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 09:08
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Originally Posted by malcolm380
Weren't they RCAF CF-104s? As a 14 year old in 1969, I was shown round the old Scottish Aviation facility and there were several RCAF Starfighters in there then
I think you're right, but weren't they based in Germany?
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 09:35
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Correct - contracted from Jan '63; completed 1000 overhauls by Dec '67; contracts ended in 1978.
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 12:22
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chevvron,
I remember an ex-NATS ATCO at EGNX telling me about the time he was on detachment to EGPX/Gailes. I seem to recall him telling me about 'Ailsa Craig 240s' off EGPK. I think it referred to the same aircraft type?
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 13:08
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Is the RAF F104s the most up to date tale involving traffic spotted at PIK?
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 13:45
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The Ailsa Craig teardrop was the "procedure" for F104s landing at EGPK , basically involved them arriving over Ailsa Craig (a rock in the middle of the Firth of Clyde, for southerners) at FL240 and 2 mins. later appear on final approach. Prestwick APC. had very little say in the matter other than to keep other aircraft out of the way. I believe one of the D controllers at Scottish Airways was qualified to fly the F104s and did so on occasions, maybe I just dreamed that bit but you never know there might be some old duffer out there who might know.
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 13:56
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Thanks obwan. It was about 40 years ago he told me that. You do get a cracking view of Ailsa from the EGPX VCR too.
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Old 27th Jan 2016, 19:16
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Norwegian AF F104's also were occasional visitors for maintenance.
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