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Old 23rd Dec 2012, 08:43   #2441 (permalink)
 
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How funny is this entire thread?

It sure is.. Forums can be quite entertaining...
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Old 24th Dec 2012, 10:23   #2442 (permalink)
 
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How funny is this entire thread?
It sure is.. Forums can be quite entertaining...
There's a little bit of humour, but I wouldn't call the whole thread either 'funny' or 'entertaining' (each to their own though I suppose). 'Informative' would probably the adjective I'd choose....with a little bit of 'bitter' and 'arrogant' thrown in on the side.

Merry Christmas!
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Old 24th Dec 2012, 17:11   #2443 (permalink)
 
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Pyscometric question:

Do you fart?

When do you fart?

why do you fart?

have you ever farted?

with whom have you ever farted?

Do you like farting?

Do Farts smell?

Do your farts smell?

Do you like farting?

LOL, making me self LMAO......... Hmmmm, I think this one will block my account... anyway.... it's a very basics of loony testing......
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Old 25th Dec 2012, 12:05   #2444 (permalink)
 
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Hempy,

Who is the tosser telling students that after the DTI module they'd be ready for Class G?


ATC students should be aware that working class G will bring you down a lot faster than working controlled airspace. The list of pitfalls is huge!
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 01:46   #2445 (permalink)
 
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Roger,
I'm just as guilty as anyone, although it's used as a 'motivator' and explained that it's only a technical status (which, in fact, it is...in the same way that completing the procedural or radar modules technically qualifies you for field training on that airspace as well).
The sim check qualifies as an endorsement, not a rating.
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Old 27th Dec 2012, 22:06   #2446 (permalink)
 
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Re-inforcing the point RS has made, rather than students/trainees being told they are 'ready' for Class G they do a case study on the Benalla tragedy. Lives lost, careers lost. Class G.

It baffles why anybody would be told that 'technically' they could hold a rating on any class of airspace after a module in the academy. I was never told it. You see the results of these methods in trainees in the field. some of them have the common sense to understand what they don't know. The ones that believe it? You can see the results of that on this forum, let alone in the field.
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Old 27th Dec 2012, 23:57   #2447 (permalink)
 
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Jack, feel free to pop on over to Bldg 156 and have a say. Brand new management structure, I'm sure they'll welcome any advice as to how to turn out better field trainees.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 17:02   #2448 (permalink)
 
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Information on Sydney TCU and Perth TCU

I have applied for the experienced controller positions advertised for Sydney and Perth. I have been searching the internet for information on both Sydney TCU and Perth TCU and have found some information but not a great deal. Does anyone know of any good websites with this sort of information?
I am interested in the different control positions in both TCU's and also interested in knowing which airports they are responsible for.
I would guess that Syndey would be resposible for Kingsford Smith, Camden and Bankstown, among others, and Perth would be responsible for Perth and Jandakot.
Any help is much appreciated.

On a different note, Happy New Year to everyone and good luck to anyone in the process of applying for a controllers position.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 22:20   #2449 (permalink)
 
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What is the normal time frame to hear back your assessment day outcome. Had my assessment over 3 weeks ago now in Canberra, and still haven't herd anything, is that normal?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 01:28   #2450 (permalink)
 
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I don't know what the normal timeframe is regarding assessment day results, but it is the New Year holidays at the moment-the person who lets you know whether or not you got in is probably away on a beach somewhere! Give them a few weeks still to have their holidays and get things ticking over again.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 02:54   #2451 (permalink)
 
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Well I take it they are back at work, as I got the phone call saying that I have a formal offer online. I'm on a train coming home from Chrissy so can't see it, but looks like they are back in the office
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 05:23   #2452 (permalink)
 
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I got my formal offer today too!
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 00:07   #2453 (permalink)
 
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This paperwork is so complicated!
Am I correct in interpreting that as I have been told my final location already that I will get very minimal help moving to the academy, (fares only, no household items removal etc) and no help at all when I finish at the academy and move to Brisbane?
That could just be a kill factor for us, not only would we have to pay a fortune to move all our household contents to melbourne, run a household of 6 people on a small income, but also save a considerable amount for a further move a year later.
Somehow it feels like my dreams are vanishing into the smoke of finances.
Ruth
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 00:15   #2454 (permalink)
 
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Ruth,

I'm not 100% sure, but I think they pay your removals once you move to the field. They will only pay fuel or airfares for your move to Melbourne though. We used a backloading company for our moves to and from Melbourne. It takes longer than a regular removal company, but works out a hell of a lot cheaper.

Congratulations by the way.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 02:55   #2455 (permalink)
 
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Think the way it works is that you get airfares or kilometres paid if you drive yourself to Melbourne about $0.70 per km depending on you car engine size. If you have nominated Brisbane as your home location then my understanding is that no assistance is provided to relocate to Brisbane if you finish the college. Best to check with P&C to confirm this.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 08:14   #2456 (permalink)
 
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Ruth, you also need to consider the statistics - you have a roughly 50% chance of rating. Plus or minus. A recent course was considerably below that average.

Come on your own?
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 19:52   #2457 (permalink)
 
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mont's right. They'll pay for either airfares or fuel for your move to Melbourne, but you're on your own for the move to Brisbane after the course finishes.
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Old 6th Jan 2013, 04:47   #2458 (permalink)
 
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On a more positive note,
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A recent course was considerably below that average.
must mean another course/courses had above average success, if you think about it

Last edited by Nautilus Blue; 8th Jan 2013 at 08:01.
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 02:56   #2459 (permalink)


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Hello everyone, my name is Trent, been lurking around these forums for a bit but haven't posted. I too have been trying to get into the ATC training program, and I just got my formal offer a couple of days ago. They want me to be in Melbourne on Feb 25th to begin the course, with my final location being Brisbane.

I was wondering if there's anyone else here who is doing the same course who might be interested in bunking up down in Melbourne. I don't know anyone down there, so I'll have to rent out a place, and I'd much rather be living with the people I'll be working with. If anyone is interested shoot me a message on here and we'll see if we can work something out.
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Old 8th Jan 2013, 07:43   #2460 (permalink)
 
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Hellish Flame, Check your PM's. I'm on the same course but will be looking for a fully furnished place. If anyone here knows of anywhere, please let me know!
Also a question to the guys who have started/finished their training. The USB you get given, is it those exact files you'll be studying initially, or is it just a good ballpark area for knowledge!
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