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Old 30th Oct 2012, 13:57   #2241 (permalink)
 
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We're lucky ASA pays us at all. And seriously that is a very veeeerry good wage just for training. Any other similar job in the world you'd have to pay to train and then not necessarily be guaranteed a job. It's not like you make the company any money while in training, where as the trainee blippees are straight-away doing their actual job, not just pretending like the atc trainees. Plus, what other job would you get paid that much as a trainee, then if you're a successful employee your pay doubles within a year & 1/2.
Trainee Network Controller with QR National is a somewhat similar job that offers all those factors.
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Old 1st Nov 2012, 01:31   #2242 (permalink)
 
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Ok, I'm booked in for assessment centre on Thursday next week, who else is also going to be there? would be nice to see a friendly face lol
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Old 1st Nov 2012, 03:41   #2243 (permalink)
 
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I'm booked in for Wednesday next week!
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Old 1st Nov 2012, 23:59   #2244 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys
I passed my phone interview 2 days ago and I've been told to wait for an invitation for an upcoming assessment centre in Canberra or Brisbane.

My question is - how much time do you have after they tell you the date? According to the written by Ruth Jones and barberwi they left them like 6 days?? I'm in Melbourne, I need to book a flight and to lie something at my work place for my 2-3 days urgent absence...how did you guys manage this issue?
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 00:33   #2245 (permalink)
 
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Where are all your assessment day interviews at?
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 00:43   #2246 (permalink)
 
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Hi Anita,

I had about 2 weeks' notice of my assessment. Once you receive your invitation, you'll be asked to book yourself into a session. From memory, when I did mine, there was three days to choose from (Monday - Wednesday).

When you receive your invitation, log into the application portal as quickly as you can and choose the most appropriate date. If there's one on a Monday, maybe you can be sick?

All the best with it!
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 01:49   #2247 (permalink)
 
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Anita82,
You're in Melbourne and they want you to do your assessment in Brisbane or Canberra?

You've really gotta wonder about them sometimes. Surely they could get you into a Melbourne session, even if you have to wait a little longer for one to come up.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 01:52   #2248 (permalink)
 
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anita - they try to give you two weeks notice, i passed on the brisbane assessment centre offer and asked for melbourne as im in Tas, Carolyn has been pretty good whenever i have had issues so far.
Ruth
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 04:14   #2249 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the responses! 2 weeks notice sounds good, I got panicked I'll have to arrange everything in few days Hopefully there will be a Monday or Friday date, I'll get "sick" and have a mini vacation in Brisbane/Canberra

Otherwise nobody is making me to go somewhere else, it's basically what cadetkid said - the next assessment date in Melbourne is full so they asked if I'm interested to attend an assessment in a different city and I said yes. I could say no and wait for the next one in Melbourne but I don't want to delay my assessment process just because of pure laziness
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 07:50   #2250 (permalink)
 
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I passed the phone interview 3 weeks ago. Still waiting to hear when the assessment day will be, but Carolyn did say it would probably be mid-December.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 08:46   #2251 (permalink)
 
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I've got to agree with almost everything Cadetkid said in that last post, including the bit about negativity, because I know I come across that way sometimes.

I just wrote a big long response, twice, then deleted them both, but when it comes right down to it, it's just a job. At some point you're going to whinge about your managers, or the food in the canteen, or the fact you didn't get the sector you wanted. If you're 100% positive through everything you do as an ATC, please let me know what sector you're controlling, so I can avoid it.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 11:58   #2252 (permalink)
 
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Hey Anita,

i had my phone interview around the 10th September, which lead to an email on the 22nd October, to book in during the 7-9th Nov.

Hasn't been too bad of a process so far, my initial application was 18th July. Hopefully i hear whether or not i made it before Christmas, but that may not happen from some reports.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 05:18   #2253 (permalink)
 
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Just did the assessment day.

Overall it wasn't too bad, long but challenging.

I suck at individual presentations so having done that last today has left me
Feeling a bit down about how I went overall.

Hopefully it doesn't cost me too much as I went alright at the rest of the tests.
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 04:03   #2254 (permalink)


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Example of Hours worked

Is anyone able to provide an example of what an average working week looks like for an ATC? Enroute if possible. Is it a rotating roster between mornings, afternoon and night shifts?

How much notice is required if you need a day off? Can shifts be swapped?
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 04:07   #2255 (permalink)
 
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for application purposes, if you already hold a Class 1 medical, are you still required to get a Class 3?
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 08:36   #2256 (permalink)
 
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You don't need it for application, only if you get accepted for training.
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 08:42   #2257 (permalink)
 
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tobz,

As far as I am aware if you hold a class 1 you can just ring CASA and request a class 3 be issued as well and they will send it out. I believe someone on my course did this but I could be wrong. Best bet is to ring CASA and ask.
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 23:26   #2258 (permalink)
 
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As previously mentioned, if you have a class 1 you do still need a class 3, but it's really no extra hassle. I had a class 1 and just got my DAME to include a class 3 when I had it renewed. You could do it that way if your renewal is coming up (then Airservices will reimburse you for the consultation part of your renewal - winner), otherwise I would agree with cadetkid and see if you can't go straight to the source and talk to CASA.
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 04:36   #2259 (permalink)
 
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Ok, one step closer, have just been informed that I passed the assessment centre and they are going to be contacting my referees very shortly, very hopeful now!
Ruth

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Old 15th Nov 2012, 05:49   #2260 (permalink)
 
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Congrats Ruth!
That was really fast I think, your assessment centre was like a week ago? I read that they tell you whether you passed it up to 2 months after the assessment centre?
Good job, you've almost done it!
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