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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 01:51   #2041 (permalink)
 
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It took me about a month to get my medical SLS. I called them every second day to get an update as I have read the horror stories from other people.

The longest part (for me anyways) was scheduling in the appointment with the DAME. I called mid June and was able to get an appointment in early July but, I was told the next available appointment was September!

Which course are you meant to be on SLS?
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 06:32   #2042 (permalink)
 
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Hey Kiwichick, nope it is not I, my assessment day was on the 23rd? of May in Melbourne.

Medicals are the worst. So far mine has been lost thrice. Once in the post between the DAME and CASA, the other two by CASA themselves. Although I have to say the staff i talk to are pretty helpful, its been rushed through a few stages. Just spoke to them now and the assessor was looking at it as I was on the phone. So I should know by tomorrow.

Have just moved to Melbourne, frantically trying to find a car and somewhere to live. Must say that the 7 days accommodation ASA provides is very nice; 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom, stylish apartment.

Anyone else on here besides us starting on the 17th kiwichick?
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Old 25th Aug 2012, 13:11   #2043 (permalink)
 
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Re Courses in Brisbane

There are currently 2 Enroute courses of 8 training in Brisbane, and 2 additional courses are planned for next year when the current courses graduate.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 03:28   #2044 (permalink)
 
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Hey there Ilves76 !

My apologies, I didn't see your post when I replied with my last

I was waiting for a Brisbane course as well, but I've been unemployed since moving over here in March (was expecting to start early May as indicated by Airservices!) and I am going totally INSANE, haha!! So, I jumped at the first available course, which happened to be Melb.

I'm moving up to Brisbane on completion (I'll be positive and say WHEN I finish, not IF I finish!).

Do you guys starting soon know about the chat room on the Air Services training website? It looks like previous courses have met up on the Friday beforehand for quiet beverage to meet and greet.

Might be the last chance for a relaxing night out for a very long time, haha!
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 01:35   #2045 (permalink)
 
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brit12,

check your private messages

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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 13:43   #2046 (permalink)
 
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Has anyone from the assessment days in early July heard anything yet?
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 05:05   #2047 (permalink)
 
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I see Air Services is advertising for trainee controllers again. I'm currently learning to fly, would I be better off applying for an ATC traineeship after I gain my PPL?

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Old 4th Sep 2012, 05:06   #2048 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I have been checking my application (application still under review). That's why I was wondering if anyone from the assessments held in Brisbane over July 9, 10, 11 had heard anything, yay or nay.

As has been posted, we were told 3 to 4 weeks and as we are approaching 2 months I thought there might have been some movement for somebody.

Funnily enough I spoke to someone recently in HR to confirm some details, and they gave me no indication as to my success/failure. I guess the wait continues.

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Old 4th Sep 2012, 09:20   #2049 (permalink)
 
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Bonniciwah, while a PPL might provide a useful background the relevant knowledge isn't stuff you couldn't pick up by reading and a bit of study. It's not going to help you get through the selection process.
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 12:13   #2050 (permalink)
 
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So im going to this assessment day next week in Bris, have read this thread and have found good advice for the day if I did it 4 years ago....I was just wondering if any of the test have changed much or its still brush up on DST maths and dont get hammered the night b4.

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Old 5th Sep 2012, 01:15   #2051 (permalink)


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Bonniciwah, while a PPL might provide a useful background the relevant knowledge isn't stuff you couldn't pick up by reading and a bit of study. It's not going to help you get through the selection process.
That's interesting (and disappointing). I've got my PPL test in the next week - a large part of my life that I undertook with the express intention of strengthening my application for ATC. I guess it looks like it may have been in vain... Not to mention the thousands of dollars...
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 04:51   #2052 (permalink)
 
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Thanks le Pingouin .
Yeah, it was selection process I was thinking of, rather than the relevant knowledge.
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 13:38   #2053 (permalink)
 
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Bonniciwah, to confirm what le Pingouin said, I have a commericial licence and a few hours under my belt, and it mattered - nor helped - not one little bit in the selection process.

Save your money unless the PPL is something that you really want to do. And it it is, wait until you're a well-paid ATC
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 21:34   #2054 (permalink)
 
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Brisbane Assessment

Hey Samborambo,

I too will be attending the assessment centre in Brisbane next week. have you received your more detailed email yet? Hmmm.. I'm still waiting for that. I need to know what to take with me as I fly out Saturday morning. Which day are you on? I'm on Monday.
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 21:44   #2055 (permalink)
 
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Canadiangal75, you don't need to take a single thing with you.

There are about six different assessment areas and everything you need is provided.

Including lunch...

My only advice for anyone attending: just remember, you're not competing with the other candidates for jobs.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:24   #2056 (permalink)
 
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Canadiangal75

You will need to take originals of residency/citizenship, photo id, and proof of education. Possibly flight logs, too, if you have them, as I think they can count as an education prerequisite. You'll also need a passport-size photo.

HR will sight and copy them, and give them back to you at the end of the day.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:36   #2057 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Kiwi Chick - I'm doing my PPL purely for the love of it without it being a means to an aviation career.
However, I've always been interested becoming an ATC and when I read through the job application I noticed on the application it was asking for any flight crew licensing details and was wondering if that did provide a leg up.
So I guess I should apply now regardless of where I'm at with my PPL.
At 45 I'm heartened by the exchange yourself and stevep64's experiences.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 05:50   #2058 (permalink)
 
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Bonniciwah,

What are your study habits like?
I just finished a science degree before I started, so I was in the study frame of mind anyway, but there have been a few people in our age group that hadn't studied for a long time and found it very hard. Myself, even though I've passed all my theory exams with an average just under 90% I'm the bottom of my course.
Then you get to the sims and all that stuff you've been cramming into your head for the past three months needs to be recalled under pressure. Again, the younger guys handle that much better.
I'm not saying I can't do it, but I'm having to work really hard just to keep up with the younger guys. I've never studied so hard in my life and it won't let up till the Christmas break.
That said, apart from a couple of really bad sim runs yesterday that really shot my confidence to pieces, I'm loving it.
So go for it
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 08:13   #2059 (permalink)
 
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Bonniciwah, Steve's experience is very typical - the older you are the harder it gets, so no point in delaying.

Having bad days however, isn't age dependent. All you can do is get back on the bike and learn from your mistakes as there's little room for time out to lick your wounds while on course. Easier said than done because ATC is very much a confidence game. Obviously you need to the skills as well, but skills without confidence doesn't work.

tmc44, 'fraid so. I think flying experience makes for a better controller, in that you gain some understanding of what's happening on the other side of the microphone but that's more a nicety than an essential.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 09:42   #2060 (permalink)
 
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documents and photo etc

Thanks irish... I just got the email this evening. Luckily I got the email before my flight and didn't listen to kiwichick.... Must go get passport photos done tomorrow and find all my paperwork and pack it all... Looking forward to the assessment day. Should be a challenging day..

Steve64, hang in there buddy.. you made it this far, keep your chin up and don't let a bad day ruin your confidence. When I was training for flight services, we had people come out of the sim in tears... But, we had a really good support system within our group and helped each other out. Some people are not cut out for it, but keep up the hard work and it will pay off.
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