PPRuNe Forums

Go Back   PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Forgotten your Username/Password?
Register FAQ Calendar Advertise Mark Forums Read

ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 21st July 2008, 19:54   #1261 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lancashire
Age: 32
Posts: 7
Swisseddie

Congrats Jon, glad it all worked out for you.

At least I know there is hope for us oldies after all
Norbas is offline   Reply
Old 21st July 2008, 20:21   #1262 (permalink)
AJ7
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: LHR/EGLL
Age: 24
Posts: 135
Sirinx,

Its always good to have a background knowledge of where the various airports are, even just knowing that Bournemouth is in the south and Newcastle in the north would be good. Without sounding/being patronising though, stick with stage 1 first, you should have a reasonable amount of time between the stages to brush up on UK geography
AJ7 is offline   Reply
Old 21st July 2008, 20:33   #1263 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 11
Phew. just done stage 1 testing today, and those folded cubes were hard!
nppatt is offline   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 00:16   #1264 (permalink)

 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: LHR/EGLL
Age: 30
Posts: 3,338
1985, Don't think I didn't notice!!!
Gonzo is online now   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 11:05   #1265 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northern Monkey
Posts: 10
Sorry to barge into this thread but does Gonzo happen to know what the selection procedure is like for the recruitment for experienced controllers. I`ve got an interview tommorrow and hoping to get back to the premier league after a few years Sunday league. How are you Gonzo? I hear you`ve spent some time on `C`ool watch.
BookEm is offline   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 12:05   #1266 (permalink)
Probationary PPRuNer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: staffordshire
Posts: 1
NATS Diagramming test..

Ive downloaded the practice questions for my tests in a months time.. However I just cannot get my hed around the Diagramming test with the commands...Can someone please help me see what im missing here?
mr tommo is offline   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 12:36   #1267 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bourne End
Age: 24
Posts: 26
fish

Ok so I rung HR to find out what was going on. They said exactly the same as the psychology guys there did. If you didn't manage to do the other two tests (Spatial and Diagramming) then you will do them if you get to stage 2.

Hope this helps anyone else out there who's in the same position.
lizplt is offline   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 17:19   #1268 (permalink)

 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: LHR/EGLL
Age: 30
Posts: 3,338
Sorry Book Em, would love to help, but the experienced ATCO programme is something I've not been involved in at all.
Gonzo is online now   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 20:37   #1269 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In a thriving maritime community
Posts: 147
Quote:
Phew. just done stage 1 testing today, and those folded cubes were hard!
There's a rumour that a few months ago selection tests for one particular occasion were mixed up for some admin mistake and someone who should have failed (a rather thick candidate) went through.
The trainee went on to the college and by the time the mistake was spotted, he had nearly finished his training.
He was then allowed to complete his training (successfully) and has now recently been posted to a certain unit very far up north
Ivor_Novello is offline   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 21:06   #1270 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Posts: 447
Which throws up some doubts on the selection process, doesn't it?
ZOOKER is offline   Reply
Old 22nd July 2008, 21:59   #1271 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bristol
Age: 26
Posts: 8
Stage 1 - failure

Just heard today I failed Stage 1.

Really gutted, as I felt reasonably good when I came out of the tests. Especially as I sat Cranwell tests for RAF Controller and passed them. I know different criteria but aptitude is aptitude is it not?!

Oh well, back to running pubs for another year! Not helped as I run pubs in Bournemouth including the one closest to the college!!

Good luck to all those in any stages!

To all those others that failed, here's to another years waiting!

GavReal
GavReal is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 00:55   #1272 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Scotland
Age: 30
Posts: 389
Quote:
The trainee went on to the college and by the time the mistake was spotted, he had nearly finished his training.
He was then allowed to complete his training (successfully) and has now recently been posted to a certain unit very far up north
Sorry IVOR, no mistake Let's talk about the one currently on aerodrome
simfly is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 01:27   #1273 (permalink)
AJ7
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: LHR/EGLL
Age: 24
Posts: 135
pretty sure that rumour is true, regardless of simfly's utterances to the contrary

also surprised at that situation lizplt... i wouldnt envy anyone doing spatial awareness tests AND the computer tests at stage 2...

good luck
AJ7 is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 10:46   #1274 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bourne End
Age: 24
Posts: 26
That was my thought too. A new level of creul!

But at least it would prove that I could handle high levels of stress
lizplt is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 14:34   #1275 (permalink)
Probationary PPRuNer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: manchester
Age: 26
Posts: 1
advice and guidence on atc wannabes

ive just sat the first ability tests with nats last week, still waiting for my results. looking for opinions and advise for passing all stages and if i fail what will help me next time? replys much appreciated. thank you.
oggy007 is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 15:06   #1276 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Off to Canada
Posts: 5
You may find using CAPITAL letters in the appropriate places might help.

Good luck.
heretostay is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 15:14   #1277 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: France
Age: 23
Posts: 18
Hi,

Just a small question.
My 1st stage tests are coming up soon (next Friday in Belfast)

In average, how many questions on cubes are there, and for how long?
Could someone answer me on the same questions for the diagramms tests and whatever tests there are?

Thanks for helping.

Chris
lafouine is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 15:37   #1278 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Posts: 447
Will someone please tell us what 'Cubes' have got to do with Air Traffic Control?
ZOOKER is offline   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 16:13   #1279 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UAE
Posts: 183
Now now, heretostay, or should that be HereToStay?

He/she also missed an apostrophe, misspelled "replies" and "advice" and used a comma where a semi-colon would have been more appropriate. Standards, dear boy, standards.
Scooby Don't is online now   Reply
Old 23rd July 2008, 16:17   #1280 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Posts: 447
Or should it be;- 'Here To Stay'?
ZOOKER is offline   Reply
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:16.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7
© 1996-2009 The Professional Pilots Rumour Network

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, or sciolists*, to elicit certain reactions.

*"sciolist"... Noun, archaic. "a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed".