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Old 5th July 2008, 22:58   #1141 (permalink)
 
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Hi,

I just applied for the stage 1 (coming up on 1st August).
As I read this tread through (quite long thread actually), I see people talking about what's called "motivation paper".
Could you give me more insight about it (or them if there are a lot to fill in)?

How would one prepare for that 'cause I read earlier someone say something like he had prepared himself well enough on it... so...?

Yea so I wanna make it through for the 1st stage and I'd like to have some advice about how to prepare well or on what should I spend more time preparing, things like that?


Thank you for replying.

Chris
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Old 6th July 2008, 01:33   #1142 (permalink)
 
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Prep. H

Thanks a million AJ and STONEYROSE.
Much Obliged.
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Old 7th July 2008, 12:52   #1143 (permalink)
 
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The motivation paper

as i remember it, is just a multiple choice question paper on material they send out with your stage one invite. While it *might not* be up to date, learn it because thats what the questions are taken from. I remember my paper a year ago being dated 2002 or somesuch - about 5 years old.

The questions are not too difficult, but you will need to read the material you are sent at least a couple of times!
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Old 7th July 2008, 14:59   #1144 (permalink)
 
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The Motivation Paper

One thing i remember from mine in February is that you should refresh your memory with the old Speed = Distance/Time. Otherwise learn the paper they sent you and you will do great!
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Old 7th July 2008, 15:25   #1145 (permalink)
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stage 1

Hi there,

Was wondering if anyone has a stage 1 in Glasgow this Friday (11th)??

Feeling a bit nervous

I've been thinking of a career as a ATC on and off for a few years and I'm still not sure if this is the career for me...has anyone managed to visit Prestwick or Glasgow to shadow/wrk exp etc??
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Old 7th July 2008, 16:29   #1146 (permalink)
 
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Hey all iv got my 2nd stage on thursday 9am and I was wondering whether the October intake of students is full yet as If I get through this stage and the 3rd Id like to start as early as possible!
Cheers
Stephan
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Old 7th July 2008, 16:58   #1147 (permalink)
 
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stephan870

Hi stephan, I passed my stage 3 a few weeks ago and was told that I may start at the college in october or january as final numbers haven't been decided. If you get through I think it's very unlikely you'll start in october, it'll more likely be january (or even april) depending how quickly you get through stage 3 and medical etc etc...
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Old 7th July 2008, 17:20   #1148 (permalink)
 
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thanks for the tips!
Take care
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Old 7th July 2008, 19:07   #1149 (permalink)
 
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Katwoman, I will be there for the 1300 session!!
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Old 8th July 2008, 11:39   #1150 (permalink)
 
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Grandad

Hi all,

Just reading through this thread with interest, can't help but wonder if I'm going to be about ten years older than every other applicant at 31

Dave
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Old 8th July 2008, 12:43   #1151 (permalink)
 
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re : grandad

Hi Dave,

I'm 32 and have my stage 3 on Monday so thus far age hasn't been an impediment.

Wish I had thought of applying 10 years ago but ho hum, never mind.

Good luck with your application and if you have any questions about stage 1 or 2 pm me.

Keep flying the flag for us oldies!

Jon
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Old 8th July 2008, 13:08   #1152 (permalink)
 
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Norbas + Swisseddie,

Don't worry about the age thing.
There is a good mixture of ages on the courses - mostly 21-26 I reckon with a smattering younger and a few more 'mature' TATC's.
I'd guess about 10-15% of the people who started our course were 27 and over.
There was no obvious correlation between age and passing either.
Personally, I found it really hard to get into the swing of studying to start with but it quickly became the norm again.
Good luck guys.
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Old 8th July 2008, 14:18   #1153 (permalink)
 
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re Grandad

Hi Dave,

I'm with you too mate, 32 here and sweating on results of stage 1. Fingers crossed
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Old 8th July 2008, 15:47   #1154 (permalink)
 
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Thanks guys, makes me feel a bit better!

Good luck with your applications, I'm due to stage 1 on Monday morning.
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Old 8th July 2008, 23:17   #1155 (permalink)
 
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Cool Much use :-)

Hey all, thanks for all of your great advice in this thread. I have my stage 2 coming up this month, and although it states that a visit to a NATS establishment is not necessary, I am looking at getting some time in at non-NATS towers nearby. Does anyone know of any facilities in Wiltshire or near to Swindon where they may accept people in, either for work exp or for a look around?

The motivation stuff is brilliant, and I have now started reading CAP413 and MATS pt 1 as a bit of light bedtime stuff! You can't do enough prep I always feel... hence my wanting to go to a tower.

Also, if I do get through to stage 3, I will definately want to go to a NATS place, preferably Swanwick. Could someone please advise how this works, as I can imagine they can't have all and sundry wandering around 24/7, so how do they operate? There is also Bristol Lulsgate which I could visit.

I realise this is a random ranting post, but have spent the last hour trying to learn callsigns and designators, so am a little wired!

Thanks in advance
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Old 10th July 2008, 10:34   #1156 (permalink)
 
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re grandad

I'm 35 and just passed my stage 1

Next the online test - anyone know what to expect or is it a case of 'answer all the questions as honestly as possible'
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Old 10th July 2008, 17:16   #1157 (permalink)
 
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Stage 1 Selection

Hi all, I attended my stage 1 about two weeks ago but haven't heard anything back yet, is this normal please?

Cheers
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Old 10th July 2008, 18:24   #1158 (permalink)
 
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Wazzer,

If it hasn't changed, then I think it can still be up to 15 days for results.

Usually, it is less than this, but not always. Quickest result I had was the next morning, the longest was 11 days (which was after my stage1).

If you haven't heard anything by the end of day 15, then I'd suggest giving them a call.

Stu
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Old 10th July 2008, 20:47   #1159 (permalink)
 
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Stage 1

Hi Guys,

sorry if this has already been answered, just have a quick question ref the document we have to read in preperation for stage 1. There is a lot of info on aircraft type, seating capacity etc etc, do we need to memorise all this?

Also, do I have the right copy as mine is a 2003 issue and I know some of the info in it is incorrect, but don't want to look like a smart ass pointing that out.

Any help would be appreciated.

I did have a skim through the thread to see if my question had already been answered but couldn't find anything.

Cheers

Ezy
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Old 10th July 2008, 21:03   #1160 (permalink)
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Ezy...

I think it may be a case of they simply havent updated the info, and that its just whether applicants take the time to learn what they are given...

Learn what you can of it, never sure what may come up but it'll be in or closely related to the info. And don't forget D/S/T

Good luck
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