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Old 21st Jan 2013, 22:55   #8961 (permalink)


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I'm going for my stage 1 assessment 11th feb in Whitely. Anybody have any advice. This is my first attempt. Is it shirt and tie etc?? Also anybody else going on this date??
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 09:12   #8962 (permalink)
 
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Originally Posted by shaymarriot
the college qualification is non transferable.
On the contrary, the college qualification, which is an unvalidated ATC licence & rating(s) is very transferable.
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 14:55   #8963 (permalink)
 
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I was just double checking driving times on google maps, when I notice they have an entry for NATS at Swanwick centre.


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NATS
A Google User reviewed a year ago
Overall: Poor to fair
Disliked: Chairs are uncomfortable and the menu is appalling
either a visitor taking their visit to the canteen a little too seriously, or an employee with a cracking sense of humour
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 15:04   #8964 (permalink)
 
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Mazza128: It isn't technically shirt and tie, but I personally did attend in a suit, and most people at least opt for the smart/casual option.

All the guidance on this should be provided in the invitation email.

Also, as for the help you wanted with regards general tips, the last 30-70 pages of this thread will give you an excellent idea of what you have just signed up to as a recruitment process.

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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 15:43   #8965 (permalink)


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Cheers phil.

I was planning on shirt and tie. Also Cheers for the advice to look back through the pages if was really helpful. Just been ploughing through the info booklet needed for the assessment. Hopefully starting now will stand in good stead with regards it all staying in there!!!
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 15:59   #8966 (permalink)


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Does anybody have any particular revision techniques they use that work. I have never really been good at revising and just looking for done techniques to try??
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Old 23rd Jan 2013, 08:49   #8967 (permalink)
 
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Hello, i have a tests on 11th february and i would just like to ask if anyone knows a cheap hostel or something to stay at for one night close to the NATS center?
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Old 23rd Jan 2013, 10:11   #8968 (permalink)
 
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@Mazza

I went through the booklet and highlighted key points that I thought were important (acronyms, values like speed and flight level etc), then I rewrote the entire document in my own words.
I made it considerably shorter, though, by using dot points.

For the aircraft specifications I made flash cards and organised them into piles based on similar characteristics such as the routes they fly.
Rather than learning each individual aircraft, I can remember which aircraft goes in which group and I have a rough idea of the specifications of that particular aircraft.

Hope this helps!
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Old 23rd Jan 2013, 12:55   #8969 (permalink)
 
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Preparation time for stage 1 test

Hi, I have been reading this thread a lot and it really helped me answer questions I have regarding what to expect on all the NATS application stages.

I just received my Stage 1 invitation letter today, but before I book my dates I want to ask if roughly a month is enough to prepare for the Stage 1 test? I realise different people have different learning styles and speed, but I just want to know how long you guys here take time to prepare (by rough estimate)

Any answer would be great help!! xx
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Old 23rd Jan 2013, 15:31   #8970 (permalink)
 
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Stage 1 tomorrow; nervous as hell. Good luck to anyone else who'll be there!
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Old 23rd Jan 2013, 16:06   #8971 (permalink)


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Cheers manderson1993

Good luck for tomorrow hope all goes well!!
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Old 23rd Jan 2013, 23:26   #8972 (permalink)
 
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Does anybody have any particular revision techniques they use that work. I have never really been good at revising and just looking for done techniques to try??
I am about 6 months away from validation. I started on a course at the college in July 2009 - yes...2009!!! I was put on hold for a year, so if not for that I would be valid 6 months already. Anyway, with regards to revising... Read the document. Read it again. Then read it another 5 times. Ask someone to test you. Then read it again another 10 times. I'm not actually kidding. You will need to get used to reading a LOT! If you go in with the idea that you aren't good at revising then you are already starting off on a bad foot. Get good at it, and quick. You will need to learn a lot of paragraphs WORD FOR WORD!
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Old 24th Jan 2013, 09:58   #8973 (permalink)
 
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Are there any applicants that attended the jan 7 assessment that are yet to hear back. I know they said up to 15 working days but I was hoping it would be a little quicker than this.
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Old 24th Jan 2013, 12:33   #8974 (permalink)
 
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Just got back from Stage 1 now.

Was so nerve racking after the ATC test while waiting to hear if we got through.
The lady came back, read off a list of names, and those people left the room.
Then the other lady said "congratulations" to the rest of us. Such a relief!

I answered 48/50 in the diagramming questions, and I'm 100% on all those.
I only got up to 35/40 for the cubes which is still good I guess, but I'm really not sure how that went.
Fingers crossed I guess.

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Old 24th Jan 2013, 15:37   #8975 (permalink)
 
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Well, the ordeal is over. I find it funny when the lady was giving us the intro she said ďand how many of you read PPRuNe?" . Maybe itís just me but I actually found the first paper surprisingly hard, or at least not what I was expecting, I really did not enjoy that dreaded wait to find out if Iíd made the first cut or not . When she was reading out the people who failed my heart was pounding so hard I could feel my ears throbbing. I was actually surprised, a large amount passed the motivation paper, I didnít do a head count but it seemed a little more than half stayed on (reading peoples experience in this topic it seems like itís usually about a 70% fail rate). Iím fully confident with how I did with the diagraming, so if I do fail itís because of the cubes (yes, they are as hard as everyone says). At least I get a few days of hopeful optimism before I know my fate for sure, ignorance is bliss.
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Old 24th Jan 2013, 22:50   #8976 (permalink)
 
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Duration

Hi, can anyone tell me how long Stage One should take? Having to fly down on the morning of it unfortunately and back at night.

Thanks
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Old 25th Jan 2013, 11:22   #8977 (permalink)
 
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Impossible, PM sent.

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I just received my Stage 1 invitation letter today, but before I book my dates I want to ask if roughly a month is enough to prepare for the Stage 1 test? I realise different people have different learning styles and speed, but I just want to know how long you guys here take time to prepare (by rough estimate)
In my opinion a month is more than enough time to prepare. I got my invitation in the second week of January, and decided to go for yesterdays assessment, partly because I wanted to get it over with as soon as possible and also because I didn't think those extra five days would add to my chances. I figure two weeks is plenty time to prepare, provided you actually use that time efficiently.
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Old 25th Jan 2013, 14:31   #8978 (permalink)
 
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@Greendotz: Thank you so much! Your opinion's a big help, now I can plan my preparation. I'll book my dates for Birmingham (on 22 Feb) since that's where I live, and work hard until then.

And good luck for your stage 1 results!!
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 10:53   #8979 (permalink)
 
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Anyone on here going to Stage 1 in Sheffield on 21st Feb?

Nervous already and still 24 days to go!
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 18:38   #8980 (permalink)
 
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hi guys - could i ask a silly question. i know nothing really of atc... i filled in an application online and got a reply and did online test. got reply inviting for assessment day (both replies in 24 hours if that helps some of you asking) .. im now wondering am i out of my depth or is it worth going to the test day??
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