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Old 15th Jan 2013, 11:02   #8961 (permalink)


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Is anyone else starting their NATS course on the 25th February? I've been on hold because I couldn't pass my CAA medical in time for the last course date in November.
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Old 15th Jan 2013, 12:35   #8962 (permalink)


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Assessment

Hello, Sorry to disturb you but I am hoping you will be able to tell me how the assessment center was and what were the questions asked.
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Old 15th Jan 2013, 13:41   #8963 (permalink)


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Hi everyone, I am an international student and I was invited for the stage 1 selection Test tomorrow, I have a work permit but it expires early next year, just want to know if this would hinder me from getting the job, dont want to make the long journey from London, only to be disappointed.

Thank you for your anticipated replies
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Old 15th Jan 2013, 18:14   #8964 (permalink)
 
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This post is unreasonably long, it is addressed only to Chuckyrooy, Waterflo, Johnny and aawallace all other can TL;DR!

Well Chuckyrooy, I would suggest you contact HR with that question. Personally a year is after your potential start-date so I would go for it. But it isn't my decision, so I suggest you ask.

Waterflo, we can't say exactly what is asked at the interview stages, or else NATS applicants here might be disqualified from entry themselves! Best bet is, read as many pages as you can stomach of this thread, people oftne quote "the last 70 pages" however, in reality the last 5 pages here are least are almost completely full of rubbish, so exclude those in your search if you are strapped for time. - There is a wealth of information in this threat, to answer your question.

johnnny, really sorry to hear that mate! I have a stage 3 coming up, and I hope to sneak onto the February course if at all possible. Perhaps I'll see you there. P.S. There is a facebook group I believe.

aawallace, thanks for your reply to my post. I wasn't there on the 7th, just saw your question and tried to help mate.

Phil

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Old 18th Jan 2013, 10:16   #8965 (permalink)
 
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@ Manderson;

Iím pretty much in the same boat, extracted every fact, figure and key piece of information from the document and now is just a case of committing it to memory and ready supplementary stuff. Memorising all the aircraft and their attributes is probably going to be the hardest for me (a lot of similar information/numbers with slight alterations, very easy to be caught out).

Feeling okay about the spatial and diagrammatic tests, although one thing is bothering me. A lot of the information in this thread is contradictory (as are most internet threads) but one thing people are astoundingly unanimous on is the difficulty of the cubes/spatial test. Iíve done a number of cube net practice tests and donít find them hard at all (giving myself 20-30 seconds to answer each one) but that seems to be the bane of many applicants, I donít want to develop a sense of overconfidence :S

Also reading through the old posts Iím incredibly bitter that the assessment isnít done in the Tower Bridge Hilton anymore, that wouldíve been so amazingly convenient for me :P
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Old 18th Jan 2013, 15:13   #8966 (permalink)


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I have my stage 1 on 7th Feb too
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Old 18th Jan 2013, 17:18   #8967 (permalink)
 
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Hi Guys, Got my stage 1 assessment in Sheffield in 5 weeks, extremely nervous!

I know exact details are not permitted and I wouldn't dream asking but can anyone give me a quick run down of how the day goes?

I am booked from 2pm til 4pm....does that mean the whole assessment is just 2 hours long? I'm sure I had read on here before that it was a whole day affair, have they changed it?

Plannign on setting aside a day to read this whole thread but today is not that day so just something quick would be great guys.

Good luck to anyone sitting any assessments soon.
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Old 18th Jan 2013, 20:11   #8968 (permalink)
 
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Is there diagramming and diagrammatic reasoning or just diagramming in stage one?

I have looked through the thread and some people call it diagramming whilst other call it diagrammatic reasoning, even though they are different tests.

Also, on the practice leaflet, there is only diagramming questions, which makes me think there isn't any reasoning and people have just confused the two.

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Old 19th Jan 2013, 15:20   #8969 (permalink)
 
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if i dont want to work for nats, do they give any diploma or degree or something like that?
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Old 19th Jan 2013, 16:59   #8970 (permalink)
 
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No...but if you be sure to tell them before you start I'm sure they'll come up with something
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Old 20th Jan 2013, 12:57   #8971 (permalink)
 
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This snow is starting to make me nervous Hopefully the trains will be able to cope in the coming week.
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Old 20th Jan 2013, 14:58   #8972 (permalink)
 
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Does anyone know how long after you take the online test you get a response?
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Old 20th Jan 2013, 14:59   #8973 (permalink)
 
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...like a P45.
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Old 20th Jan 2013, 17:26   #8974 (permalink)
 
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@garusa -

If you don't want to work for NATS then don't apply... the college qualification is non transferable. And I assure they won't want to pay to train you for ATC if you're not going to try and carry it through.

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Old 21st Jan 2013, 22:55   #8975 (permalink)


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I'm going for my stage 1 assessment 11th feb in Whitely. Anybody have any advice. This is my first attempt. Is it shirt and tie etc?? Also anybody else going on this date??
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 09:12   #8976 (permalink)
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shaymarriot
the college qualification is non transferable.
On the contrary, the college qualification, which is an unvalidated ATC licence & rating(s) is very transferable.
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 14:55   #8977 (permalink)
 
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I was just double checking driving times on google maps, when I notice they have an entry for NATS at Swanwick centre.


Quote:
NATS
A Google User reviewed a year ago
Overall: Poor to fair
Disliked: Chairs are uncomfortable and the menu is appalling
either a visitor taking their visit to the canteen a little too seriously, or an employee with a cracking sense of humour
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 15:04   #8978 (permalink)
 
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Mazza128: It isn't technically shirt and tie, but I personally did attend in a suit, and most people at least opt for the smart/casual option.

All the guidance on this should be provided in the invitation email.

Also, as for the help you wanted with regards general tips, the last 30-70 pages of this thread will give you an excellent idea of what you have just signed up to as a recruitment process.

Phil
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 15:43   #8979 (permalink)


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Cheers phil.

I was planning on shirt and tie. Also Cheers for the advice to look back through the pages if was really helpful. Just been ploughing through the info booklet needed for the assessment. Hopefully starting now will stand in good stead with regards it all staying in there!!!
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 15:59   #8980 (permalink)


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Does anybody have any particular revision techniques they use that work. I have never really been good at revising and just looking for done techniques to try??
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