MACC to Scotland, About time too

[M6 Northbound]

At last, NATS management have made a great decision and decided to post all you deadlegs at Manchester to ScATCC.

No doubt you will all be 'up in arms ' about this, but in my excellent opinion it's about time. You guys have had the easy life of a great cheap place to live for years. Now you can have a ****, cheap place to live.

And don't forget you are a mobile grade!

[PPRuNe Radar]

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.

Bound to get a few in his net though :(

[MACC 29 all the time!!!!]

What a joy it will be to become part of a team that thinks like that!!!! Teamwork ahhhhhhhh!!!!!

Just hope your attitude is the minority!!!!

[The Fat Controller]

Have been living here for 14 years, comfortable cheap house, very few traffic jams, and consequently roads where I could enjoy the performance of my new Porsche 911.
Life is awfully difficult for an English ATCO at ScOACC, not !
As for the working environment, I am sure the lessons of LACC will have been learned, and our new building will be on time !
The only likely problem is that there won't be enough big houses to go round when you all bring your wads of cash up from Macclesfield and the like.

[Lon More]

MACC 29, read PpruNe Radar's comment He's probably a jealous NERC dweller.

Bet the move doesn't happen until a certain JC has retired.

Lon More,
More than just an ATCO

[bagpuss lives]

M6 Northbound - you could have done so much of a better job at a wind up attempt :D

Good effort though....well....decent anyhow.

[055166k]

No-one at Manchester will go to Scotland against their wishes. The mobile grade provision applied only up to the time that Scotland became devolved and started to enjoy its own Parliament. A compulsory posting to Scotland would fall into the same category as a compulsory posting to a foreign country. An employee cannot be forcibly moved to a country with a different system of laws, customs, and practices.

[ayrprox]

I'm sorry but this anti scacc view that seems to be permiating (apologies for spelling) from south of the border is out of order. For anyone who has come up here and had a bad experience I'm sorry :( but they are in the minority, and unless people are basing their comments on actual experience they have no right to slate either the people or the place.
I live in a place that would have cost half the money of a place at either Manch or down south and I do mean half (AND M6 I think mine will still be standing long after your plasterboard hut falls to the ground) & the pubs open later :ok: what more could you want!!.

and no i dont work for the tourist board :}

[Arran's view]

055166k

Your perspective of history is a bit lacking. Scotland has had it's own laws and legal system since before the United kingdom was created and they continue now in a slightly different form. Norther Ireland has had a devolved government on and off for decades.

Your contract of employment, based upon English law, has not changed. You can be compulsorily posted to any part of the United Kingdom which still exists.

MACC 29. Having seen some of your posts before I expect you will enjoy working with your new colleagues who express many views similar to yours. :D

P.S. According to newspapers here today the new centre has officially been given the go ahead with work re-starting as soon as October. No doubt we will read all about it on return at work. :rolleyes:

[MACC 29 all the time!!!!]

Sure I will Aaran, the point I was making was it was a rather pathetic attempt just to wind folk up. I'm certainly not anti-scottish being 50% scottish myself!!!

Just that sort of attitude doesn't help matters. I do however think that 055166K may have a valid point that has been raised with the powers that be at Manch, since the Scottish parliment came into being it would effectively be a move to another country, now how many will actually stand up for thier rights is another matter.


I don't believe there is any Anti-scottish feeling south of the border at all, its just a typical ATCO anti-change thing nothing to do with Scotland at all, indeed if the recent BBC poll is to be believed there is a strong anti-english feeling north of the border!, something else that has been brought up with management. As I said before its a team game and we ware all on the same team so if we end up working in the same building I hope the attitudes of the likes of M6 Northbound are laid firmly to rest!!!!

[1261]

Pprune radar,

I may be one who "got through his net".....

But I have a feeling that if I'd used an expletive in a post further action would have been taken...!

[Minesapint]

Scottish want MACC so that they can get off the bottom rung as far as traffic figures go. :hmm: And this is 'partly' a wind up!

[White Rose]

Minesapint

Imagine the figures, if MACC goes to Scottish it will MORE THAN DOUBLE their movements total.

[Not Long Now]

Perhaps any MACC types who don't fancy a trek to the great even more frozen even further north would care to come on down to West Drayton or NERC.
Always plenty of room for experienced controllers who could be "fast tracked" and valid in no time!
Form an orderly queue.......:=

[Bigears]

Whiterose,
No it won't- you can't count traffic that currently transits between the two centres twice when combined as one centre. I think. :confused:

[White Rose]

Bigears

Like your posts, you talk a lot of sense, but if you ignore the traffic that Macc and Scatcc share then Macc is still the busier.

Yes I know, different airspace etc, etc, etc but point is still made.

[Bigears]

Point taken! :p

[The Fat Controller]

Is that taking into account the transfer of the North Sea sectors from LACC to ScACC ?
Not that it makes any difference, you'll all be made welcome up here, and there are a couple of nice easy sectors for when it all gets a bit too much as you approach retirement !

[055166k]

Are Scottish taking people at the moment? I am thinking of applying this year or next. I love the place and the folks are second to none.....I worked H and I for a spell, and the Fat Controller's comments make pleasant reading.....keep that up and there will be a competition for seats. You can have my seat at the Swanwick fishtank console in return.

[Ayr_Man]

Just thought I'd let you guys at Manch know that we Scots invented everything from the Radar you use to the tarmac on the M6 heading northwards, and Man.Utd manager Sir Alex Ferguson! Oh and also The Bank Of England ,and The US Navy.

check the link below for an education excercise, LOL

http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html

:D

[Numpo-Nigit]

""" Just thought I'd let you guys at Manch know that we Scots invented everything from the Radar you use to the tarmac on the M6 heading northwards, and Man.Utd manager Sir Alex Ferguson! Oh and also The Bank Of England ,and The US Navy. """

all that, plus Gordon Brown AND Colin Chisholm !!!

Isn't it about time you Scots invented something the rest of us could thank you for ???



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[NERC Dweller]

Lon More wrote

MACC 29, read PpruNe Radar's comment He's probably a jealous NERC dweller

Most definitely wasn't me!:)

Isn't it about time you Scots invented something the rest of us could thank you for ???

What about a nice malt Whisky?

Duh :O - Of course the Scots like their whisky without the 'e'

[cossack]

What about a nice malt Whiskey?
That would be the Irish then!
The Scots like their Whisky without the "e":D

[bagpuss lives]

Just thought I'd let you guys at Manch know that we Scots invented everything from the Radar you use to the tarmac on the M6 heading northwards, and Man.Utd manager Sir Alex Ferguson! Oh and also The Bank Of England ,and The US Navy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1410000/images/_1411586_rik.jpg

RIGHT KIDS?

:}

[MACC 29 all the time!!!!]

Not Long Now it may surprise you that quite a few MACC controllers that I know off have actually applied to move to NERC and been told NO completely ruins your idea's of a typical MACC controller HUH?. Because of the way things appear to be going morale wise, which is resulting in people jumping ship to canada in ever increasing numbers, we haven't got the staff, and as I said in my earlier post people with the sort of views that started this are surely something that we can all do without, the constant "my unit is better than yours" and "you'd never validate here..." etc. etc. borders on playground childishness!!!!

[Scottie Dog]

As an outsider, and having found no info in the NATS website, could I ask when this move will be taking place?

Scottie Dog

[White Rose]

Numpo-nigit

If you are going to decend to mentioning tarnac etc, why do you not mention Scottish goalkeepers, crap beer, rain...oh, and whiskey is nicer than whisky...ouch.

[BALIX]

Hey White Rose, you are obviously from t'other side of the Pennines and lets face it, nothing can compare with God's own county.

Just for the record, though, Scottish beer IS crap which is why most people drink Stella, Becks, Bud and the like.

[ecj]

The cider is fine as well

[bagpuss lives]

Scottie Dog - the move is rumoured to be happening in 2008 / 2009 when MaccSNERC opens it's doors.

[chiglet]

Two years, three months, two days, five hours [No I'm not counting]:ok:
I'm one of the "Lucky" ones
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy