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Idunno
20th Apr 2003, 05:55
Does your company have specific SOPs on when to commence after landing actions (spoliers cancelled/flaps retract etc)?

Would you mind sharing them please?

Knold
20th Apr 2003, 06:54
Basic rule: Not before your ready :hmm:

Spoilers go in at about turn off speed or when on taxi way. You don't want to get FOD in the mechanics.

Flaps according to after landing checklist. Basic rule here is never on runway. (On MD80 to 15 deg first. They remain this way until you get to the apron. This is said to prevent FOD to the engines.)

Cheers

Intruder
20th Apr 2003, 09:15
After the airplane is clear of the runway, the Pilot Flying calls"Flaps Up, After-landing checklist." The situation (crossing other runways, contacting Ground Control, etc) will determine how much delay after clearing the runway before that's done.

411A
20th Apr 2003, 10:59
With most airline aircraft, the nose wheel tiller is on the left hand side...so the COMMANDER calls for the 'after landing checks' (not the co-pilot)...and said checks are completed in accordance with the respective airlines' standard operating procedures.:eek:

ironbutt57
20th Apr 2003, 13:12
When clearing the runway, or slowed to a taxi speed on the runway are the two variations I have encountered..the CV-580 being the odd one in that the flaps were retracted upon nosewheel touchdown to put weight on wheels so as to avoid scrubbing the tires..

L337
20th Apr 2003, 14:34
With most airline aircraft

With most old airline aircraft the nose wheel tiller is on the left hand side...so these days..... the HANDLING PILOT calls for the 'after landing checks'

So in BA where all mainline aircraft have tillers on both sides. The above situation exists. Certainly all the A320/ 319s and 757/767/777/747-400s do.

On Boeing aircraft traditionally, and I think it is Boeing SOPs. The after landings scan is done when the HANDLING pilot places the speed brake down.

As one last thought, the afterlanding scan should be done once the aircraft has vacated the runway. When all is calm, because it has been known for the gear to be selected up, instead of the flaps being selected up!!

L337

PS. You will also note that the views expressed by 411A were valid and current in the 1960s. Since then CRM, and the world has moved on.

dolly737
20th Apr 2003, 16:17
Idunno:

-When down to taxi speed, the captain calls "my controls" (if applicable; tiller only on lh side)
-When clear of runway, captain just puts speedbrakes down - this triggers the after-landing items without any callouts.

happy landings
dolly

Flight Detent
20th Apr 2003, 18:27
Hi all,
I'm with 'dolly737',

In the B747 Classic, regardless of whom landed the aircraft, the Captain calls taking over, and when he is ready, selects the speed brakes down, thereby indicating to all that it's time to begin the after landing procedure for the FE and FO, and when he's finished, the FE runs through the after landing checklist silently, all done nice and easy!!

Cheers

Max Angle
20th Apr 2003, 21:20
PF disarms the spoilers when clearing the runway, PNF then actions the after landing items from memory, no printed checklist.

Don't worry 411a, the COMMANDER is still the COMMANDER no matter who calls for the checks and whoever taxis the aircraft. It may be an affront to your 4 stripes that someone else steers the ship or calls for checks but most of us are a bit more grown up about it nowadays.

ironbutt57
20th Apr 2003, 23:27
Max angle..don't think 411A meant it that way at all..most US airlines ant others until recently didn't have provisions for the F.O. to taxi the aircraft..so hence his reply..so you grow up:yuk:

The Greaser
21st Apr 2003, 00:30
Our company SOP's call for spoilers to be retracted, clear of runway AND taxi instructions copied and understood before commencing after landing scan.