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QDMQDMQDM
30th Dec 2002, 21:18
I had to post this link. Be sure to also scroll down to the second set of pics showing the landing spot on the island. And 'spot' is the correct word:

http://www.supercub.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=904

QDM

moku
30th Dec 2002, 21:34
Ummmmm, Tried but link did not work for me. :(
Happy New Year all!

EH8
30th Dec 2002, 21:40
Hasn't worked for me either:( :(

AerBabe
30th Dec 2002, 22:03
Worked for me! ...which makes a change, cos nothing much else is working on this machine at the moment...
All I can say is :eek: :eek: :eek:

Stik - that shortfield landing we did when you let me play in your little yellow tailwheel, when we stopped before the yak parked up on that grass strip... How many times longer was that? :)

QDMQDMQDM
30th Dec 2002, 22:26
Looks like the supercub.org server is playing up tonight. Strange, cos it's usually very reliable. Keep trying though -- these pics are worth it.

stiknruda
31st Dec 2002, 08:19
Couldn't get the link to work, either.

Aerbabe - you got the Aeronca down and stopped in about 120metres, not at all bad for a first attempt. We should go play again!

Stik

QDMQDMQDM
31st Dec 2002, 16:30
Well, the site is up again.

Here are a couple more to goggle at. The last is quite amazing.

Nice approach...

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=abc

What happens when it goes wrong...

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=aeo

Landing on a postage stamp again...

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=aft

And from closer up...

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=afv

Fly Stimulator
31st Dec 2002, 16:40
Thanks for the link QDM³ - it's working again now.

As one of the people says in the thread - humbling!

Chuck Ellsworth
31st Dec 2002, 18:28
Great pctures:

Many years ago (1969 ) I flew a Super Cub in the Canadian Arctic with "BIG" tundra tires. We were contracted to fly geologists all over the Arctic.

The picture of the Super Cub on the mountain top is exactly like one I landed on in the Arctic, it also took several days to get the right wind and very careful approaches with break offs before I commited to actually land the thing. My biggest problem was manhandling the bas...d into the correct position to launch it back off the mountain top. I almost lost it over the side trying to get it in place. :) :)

As long as the wind and turbulence is safe it really is no big deal to land a Super Cub on an area such as in the picture.

What could be a big deal is fu....g up the landing. :D

I thought long and hard before I posted this as there is a very thin line between professionalism and stupidity, but we all do risky things and not to admit to it is unprofessional. :) :)

Cat Driver:

Philip Whiteman
31st Dec 2002, 18:52
Having had our L-4 in the family for 22 years, I know you can land a Cub anywhere... it's just getting it out that can give you grey hair.

Oh for 90 or even 130 hp (ours still has an A65). Oh for being thinner and lighter...

Now, before any smart Alec notices the time of posting and tells me I am sad, I must dash for our New Year's Eve party!

treadigraph
1st Jan 2003, 00:44
Pip: I just got back at 01:45 - hiccupy New Year to all PPRuNers...

Great pixs!

Flyin'Dutch'
1st Jan 2003, 10:35
Has to be to go out there and have as much fun with one of these as those folk.

FD

nonradio
1st Jan 2003, 16:25
OK, OK so sometimes I do wish for the other 75HP. And better brakes.:D

of course, I meant to say extra 85HP. On second thought maybe it'd be wasted on me..

Dusty_B
2nd Jan 2003, 10:58
I've never flown in a cub.

Will someone PLEASE take me up in one of these things???

QDMQDMQDM
2nd Jan 2003, 21:30
Dusty_B,

It isn't a cub you want, it's a Supercub:

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=ayd

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=ati

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=atj

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Supercubs&id=awp

A cub will get you in, but a Supercub will get you out too.

If you're at Eggesford next season, come flying.

QDM

stiknruda
3rd Jan 2003, 08:18
Dustyb et al,

About 10/11 years ago I went along to Clacton for their SuperCub conversion and Farmstrip course. Assuming that the content has not changed I would highly recommended it.

No doubt someone with more brains than I possess can post a link to their web-site (if they have one!)

Stik

AerBabe
3rd Jan 2003, 08:54
Your wish etc (http://www.clacton-aero-club.uk.com/)
Not so sure about more brains though :)

nonradio
3rd Jan 2003, 10:59
Q3: I have to rise to the bait, but sadly can't disagree on your performance analysis. Except that by definition, therefore, the non-super Cub requires more skill, verve, elan...

Kingy
3rd Jan 2003, 20:06
My L4, one up with it's new climb prop gets off as short as any Super Cub I've seen - I've got to admit its a different story with two on board though!

Great Pics, in fact, a great site - thanks

Kingy

LowNSlow
5th Jan 2003, 06:54
Kingy a climb prop on an L4 :eek: My L4 with a standard prop cruised at 75 mph. Do you go backwards in a 20 knot headwind :D :D

The current Auster cruises at a masterful 95 mph. It's like having a jet after the L4, you can actually see the ground move ;) More "interesting" to land too :eek: :cool:

EI_Sparks
5th Jan 2003, 19:00
nonradio: If that's true, then what about the J2? :D
There's a fun comparison here (http://www.airbum.com/pireps/CubComparison.html) .
Oh the things to look forward to for after getting the PPL :)

moku
5th Jan 2003, 20:38
Thanks QDM,

finally got to look at the pictures!! Worth the wait!

moku.

nonradio
6th Jan 2003, 09:34
EI: there you go, and then some! I've seen that nice article before, but it's still a pleasure to read- note all the skill and judgement required in the J2. ;) Cute as a Bug, Piper Cub

Kingy
6th Jan 2003, 18:31
Low N Slow

Yes the new prop's an Italian GT and has totally changed the plane - they are actually using a pic of my Cub in their advertising as it's the first one approved in the UK (long, long process!) performance is better in every respect and only yesterday I timed the climb @ 625fpm one up (but im 200+lbs)...thats good for a Cub.

I often visit fields less than 200m and my home field (Eastbach) is'nt exactly massive!

Kingy

Genghis the Engineer
7th Jan 2003, 15:25
Kingy,

Would you happen to know the AAN number for that prop approval - and is it a CAA or PFA AAN?

G

Croqueteer
7th Jan 2003, 19:09
Nick Bloom's strip has got to win prizes in this sector. Send in a pic of it , Nick?

Kingy
7th Jan 2003, 23:48
Genghis

The Cub is on a PFA permit. Im not sure what you mean about the AAN number. The PFA required information from GT regards the suitability of the prop for a Cub. Being Italian with limited English this exchange took a while to say the least!

Im not a expert, but I think although series built and certified, A/C like the Cub operating on a PFA permit are not strictly tied to the 'official' approved prop list and can, at the PFA's discression be fitted with non certified props. This is not widely known even amongst inspectors and not actively encouraged.

When finally approved the prop change went through as a standard PFA mod subject to an inspector's sign off for fitting and satisfactory ground runs and air test, which I did:)

Hope this helps

K